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0,,你好 罗马 Ciao, Rome!
你好 世界 Ciao, world!
你们好 Ciao!
我们遗忘了什么 What have we forgotten?
我们到底遗忘了什么 What have we forgotten?
我们遗忘了你 We have forgotten you!
让我再说清楚些 Let me be very clear:
我之所以在这 只有一个简单的原因 I'm here for one very simple reason.
就是不遗忘任何一个人 To not forget anyone.
上帝不会将任何人遗弃 God does not leave anyone behind.
这是在我决意侍奉他时 他告诉我的 That is what He told me when I decided to serve Him.
现在 我也将这句话告诉你们 And it is what I say to you now.
我侍奉上帝 我侍奉你们 I serve God. I serve you!
我们遗忘了那些 We've forgotten the women and children,
将用自己的爱与善改变世界的妇女儿童 who will change this world with their love and their kindness.
他们以自己非凡而神圣的天性嬉戏玩耍着 And with their marvelous, divine disposition to play.
玩耍是让我们与生命和谐共生 Play is the only authentic means we have
真正而唯一的途径 to make us feel in harmony with life
若想与主同在 我们必要与生命融洽 And to be in harmony with God we have to be in harmony with life.
我们别无选择 We don't have a choice:
我们必须与主同在 we must be in harmony with God!
而除此之外我们还忘了什么 And what else have we forgotten?
我们还忘了自慰 We have forgotten to masturbate,
忘了采取避孕措施 to use contraceptives,
忘了堕胎 to get abortions,
忘了庆祝同性婚姻 to celebrate gay marriages,
忘了允许神父们彼此相爱 to allow priests to love each other,
甚至结婚 and even to get married.
我们忘了如果活腻了 我们可以决定去死 We've forgotten that we can decide to die if you detest living,
我们忘了不以生育为目的 we've forgotten to have sexual relations
而不怀羞愧地性交 for purposes other than procreation without feeling guilty!
帮帮我们吧 Help!
我们忘了离婚 忘了让修女做弥撒 To divorce, to let nuns say mass,
忘了用所有已发现和将被发现的科学方法 to make babies in all the ways science has discovered
去生孩子 and will continue to discover.
简而言之 我最亲爱 最亲爱的孩子们 In short, my dear, dear children,
我们不只忘了去玩耍 not only have we forgotten to play,
我们还忘记了去快乐 we have forgotten to be happy.
而只有一条路通往快乐 And there is only one road that leads to happiness.
这条路就称为自由 And that road is called freedom.
愿圣使徒彼得和保罗 Sancti Apostoli Petrus et Paulus,
保有其权力和权威 我们有信心... de quorum potestate et auctoritate confidimus...
你在说什么 莱尼 What are you saying, Lenny
这通胡言乱语是怎么回事 What's all this nonsense?
你不是教宗 莱尼 You're not the Pope, Lenny!
我才是 I am the Pope!
我才是教宗 而你 莱尼 I'm the Pope, and you, Lenny,
已经不再是教会的一员了 are no longer a member of the Church.
你和主已经脱离关系了 莱尼 You are done with God, Lenny.
脱离是什么意思 What you mean done?
我和主才刚刚开始 I just barely got started with God.
你是谁 莱尼 Who are you, Lenny?
我是一个矛盾体 I am a contradiction.
如同主 三位一体 Like God. One in three and three in one.
如同玛丽亚 既是处女又是母亲 Like Mary, virgin and mother.
如同人类 善恶兼有 Like man, good and evil.
今天起庇护十三世就开始行使教宗权了 Today Pio XIII's papacy begins.
红衣主教仍然在梵蒂冈城中 Cardinals are still in Vatican City,
只有在教宗第一次布道结束后他们才会离开罗马 and they will leave Rome only after the new Pontiff's first homily.
我是教宗 I am the Pope.
不太清楚您的口味 圣座 Not knowing your tastes, Your Holiness,
我们擅自把每样食物都准备了一些 we took the liberty of preparing a little of everything.
没有人告诉你我吃的很少吗 实际上 几乎不吃 Didn't anyone tell you I don't eat much? Hardly anything, in fact!
我早上只喝一瓶零度樱桃可乐 All I have in the morning is a Cherry Coke Zero.
我们立刻就去准备一些 We will get some right away.
-你叫什么名字 -多芒 圣座 -What's your name? -Domen, Your Holiness.
我是圣座的管家 I am Your Holiness's maggiordomo.
-你知道多芒是什么意思吗 -"属于上帝的人" -Do you know what Domen means? -"One who belongs to God".
正是 所以 依据传递属性 Precisely. So, by transitive property...
你属于我 you belong to me.
您睡得如何 圣座 How did you sleep, Your Holiness?
我做了个好笑的梦 I had an amusing dream.
红衣主教奥佐林斯和阿吉雷互扇耳光 Cardinal Ozolins and Cardinal Aguirre slapping each other,
而我在圣彼得广场 对着众人说出了 and I said the most outrageous things to the crowd
极为离谱的话 in Saint Peter's Square.
那么 我会在这里等我的零度樱桃可乐 Well then, I'll wait here for my Cherry Coke Zero.
与此同时 圣座是否想享受一下普通的健怡可乐 In the meantime would Your Holiness care for a regular Diet Coke?
希望我们没有分歧 多芒 Let's not utter heresies, Domen.
总是勉为其难地生活会导致死亡的 It's death to settle for things in life.
圣父 当你等待的时候 请允许我介绍比奇修女 Holy Father, while you wait, may I present Sister Bice,
来自内皮 拉齐奥的一个可爱小镇 from Nepi, in delightful province of Lazio.
她将成为您的私人厨师 She will be your personal cook.
比奇修女还服务过在您之前的三位教宗 Sister Bice also served three pontiffs who came before you.
她年轻时曾在印度传教 When she was young, she was a missionary in India
幸运的是 她的英语很棒 and fortunately for us, she speaks a good English.
我的甜心 圣父 Well, my sweet Holy Father,
那么你午餐想要吃些什么呢 now what is it you would like to have for your lunch?
你只需要告诉你的比奇想要什么 You just tell your Bice what you want,
我都会为你准备好的 and I'll prepare it for you.
传统意大利面 意大利面 烤面条加干酪沙司 意式宽面 Matriciana, pasta e fagioli, carbonara, lasagne.
是我听错了吗 她刚才叫我甜心 Am I mistaken, did she say "my sweet"?
圣座 比奇修女相当...奇怪 Your Holiness, Sister Bice is rather... quaint.
不 多芒 她并不奇怪 No, Domen, she is not quaint.
她很友好 She's friendly.
嬷嬷 Mother...
女修道院院长尊称
让我来为你解释一些在你漫长的人生岁月里 Let me explain something to you, that you, in your long life,
还没有机会去理解的事情吧 have not yet had the occasion to understand:
友好关系是危险的 friendly relationships are dangerous.
他们使自己陷入歧义 They lend themselves to ambiguities,
误解和冲突的境地 misunderstandings, and conflicts,
因此他们总是不得善终 and they always end badly.
在另一方面 平常关系 Formal relationships, on the other hand,
如泉水般澄澈 are as clear as spring water.
他们的行事规则板上钉钉 Their rules are carved in stone.
没有会陷入误解的风险 There's no risk of being misunderstood
所以总能永久持续 and they last forever.
现在 你需要知道 Now, you need to know--
我并不欣赏友好关系 I do not appreciate friendly relationships.
但我十分钦佩平常关系 But I'm a great admirer of formal ones.
平常关系所在之处 才会存在礼仪 Where there are formal relationships there are rites
礼仪所在之处 规则秩序才能支配一切 and where there are rites the earth order reigns.
圣座 国务秘书阁下 Your Holiness, His Eminence the Cardinal Secretary of State
红衣主教尊称
和各会众的教主 and the Prefects of the Various Congregations
等不及想熟悉您并对您表示欢迎了 can't wait to make your acquaintance and to welcome you.
那他们也不得不等了 Well, they're gonna have to.
因为我要先享用我的零度樱桃可乐 Because first I have to drink my Cherry Coke Zero.
愿启示众生的上帝帮助你 May God, who has enlightened every heart, help you
获悉你的罪恶 并相信的他的仁慈 to know your sins and trust His mercy.
说说你的罪恶吧 沃伊洛 Your sins, Voiello?
托马索 不要浪费我的时间 Tommasino, don't waste my time.
我的罪恶和复杂的交易和外交有关 My sins have to do with high finance and diplomacy.
即使我忏悔了 你也完全不会理解的 Even if I were to confess them, you wouldn't understand a thing.
那就忏悔些我能明白的吧 So confess those I can understand.
我曾经有过污秽的想法 I've had impure thoughts.
对谁? About who?
-对维伦多夫的维纳斯 -她是谁 -About the Venus of Willendorf. -Who's she?
教宗保存在他的图书馆里的旧石器时代的雕像 The Paleolithic statue the Pope keeps in his library.
已经有25000岁了 It's 25,000 years-old.
对一个雕像产生污秽的想法 Impure and gerontophilic thoughts about a statue...
我能对此安排什么苦行呢 What sort of penance can I assign for that?
你给我出了难题 沃伊洛 You're making things difficult for me, Voiello!
你仔细想想 然后告诉我 You think about it and let me know.
我急着走了 I'm in a hurry.
看啊 朋友们 圣灵要被吹走了 Look, guys, the Holy Spirit is blowing away.
说到圣灵 你是怎么想的 Speaking of the Holy Spirit, what do you think?
他真的照亮了红衣主教吗 Did He illumine the cardinals?
你们这些非洲人的幼稚是真是让人感动 The naiveté of you Africans is really touching.
你真的相信是圣灵选择了教宗? Do you really believe that the Holy Spirit elects the Pope?
我们非洲人不信 We Africans, no,
但是 我们天主教徒 是的 那正是我们所相信的 but we Catholics, yes, that is what we believe.
难道你不信吗 奥佐林斯 Don't you, Ozolins?
圣灵不是愚蠢的 Well. The Holy Spirit is not stupid,
但是他讽刺又狡猾 but He is ironic and cunning.
-我不明白 -他试着和你说的是 -I don't understand. -What he's trying to tell you...
在这里 在梵蒂冈 is that here in Vatican...
圣灵只是沃伊洛的另一个名字 the Holy Spirit is just another name for Voiello.
贝尔拉多才47岁了 Belardo is forty-seven years old.
还很年轻 That's young.
看来我们活不到看见下一个教宗的时候了 Which means we won't live to see another pope.
多么悲哀啊 How sad!
卡尔塔尼塞塔 你能活着见到这个教宗 Caltanissetta, it's already a miracle
已经是个奇迹了 that you've lived long enough to see this one.
我不是很确定沃伊洛这次展现了良好的领导能力 I'm not so sure that Voiello has shown good leadership this time.
我也从来没有真正相信过他 I've never really trusted Voiello myself.
他就是魔鬼的化身 He's the devil incarnate.
斯宾塞本该是个不错的选择 Spencer would have been the right choice.
他太独立了 Far too independent,
这对我们红衣主教来说不会是个好消息 and that wouldn't have been a good news for us cardinals.
是的 True.
但是我们能用来交换的不过是个镜头前的傀儡 But all we have in exchange is a telegenic puppet.
这就意味着他可以被操纵 And that means that he can be manipulated.
这就是沃伊洛狡猾外交的杰作 This is a masterpiece of Voiello's diplomatic cunning,
他引导红衣主教们投票给贝尔拉多 the way he shepherded the cardinals' votes to Belardo.
现在贝尔拉多掌管着大权 Now Belardo holds office,
但事实是沃伊洛在幕后操纵 but Voiello is pulling the strings.
他会听从我们的安排 And he'll run things the way we tell him,
因为我们再一次救了他的性命 because once again we saved his life.
尽管我是非洲人 尽管我很天真 I may be African, and I may be naive,
但是如果你问我怎么想 but if you ask me...
我认为你正把未来简化到了危险的境地 you're simplifying the future to an unhealthy degree.
我同意我们非洲同僚说的话 I'm in agreement with our African colleague.
你这是什么意思 What do you mean by that?
你忘记了问一个基本的问题 That you've forgotten to ask one fundamental question.
斯宾塞现在准备做什么 What's Spencer going to do now
他心爱的 令人厌恶的宠儿 that his beloved, detested protégé
已经成为了教宗 has become pope?
上帝啊 你为什么要抛弃我 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
耶稣在他临死前说到 said Jesus before he was about to die.
这也是我现在对你说的 在我被铭记之前 Which is what I say to you now, before I begin to live.
神的无限沉默 God's infinite silence...
神的无限沉默 God's infinite silence.
圣座 你的罪恶 Your Holiness... your sins.
我没有任何罪恶需要忏悔 I don't have any sins to confess.
-你是认真的吗 -我唯一的罪恶 -Are you serious? -My only sin,
也是一个极大的罪恶 and it's an enormous one,
是我的良心在任何事情上都不会谴责我 is that my conscience does not accuse me of anything.
以父之名 我宽恕你的罪 Ego te absolvo peccatis tuis in nomine Patris,
还有圣子 还有圣灵 阿门 et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.
如果我总是听到像你这样的忏悔 圣座 If I always heard confessions like yours, Your Holiness,
我会失业的 I'd be out of a job.
你在梵蒂冈听了多少忏悔了 唐·托马索 How many confessions do you hear in the Vatican, Don Tommaso?
我? Me?
整个教廷 许多修女和牧师的 The entire Curia, a good number of nuns and priests,
也有一些在梵蒂冈城工作的员工的 as well as several lay employees who work in Vatican City.
你多大了 How old are you?
61 Sixty-one.
你的视力怎么样 And how's your eyesight?
挺好的 我甚至不用带眼镜 I don't even wear glasses.
那你的听力呢 And your hearing?
我唯一的问题是我的头发 圣座 My only problem is my hair, Your Holiness.
你的意思是说掉了很多 You mean it's falling out?
不仅仅是这个 有时候它很痛 Not only that. Sometimes it hurts.
你的头发会痛? Your hair hurts?
非常好 Good, very good!
我就直说了 唐·托马索 我需要你 I'll be frank, Don Tommaso, I need you.
你一定要做一些非常重要的事 You must do something very important
为了让你的教宗手握筹码 for the eminency of your pontiff.
随您所愿 圣父 尽管告诉我 Whatever you wish, Holy Father. Tell me.
来吧 我将在忏悔室中告诉你 Come then, I'll tell you in the confessional.
忏悔室真是漂亮 Confessional booths are so beautiful.
看起来像山间小屋 They look like little mountain huts.
你喜欢山吗 Do you like the mountains?
我不喜欢下雪的时候 I don't like the snow.
接下来是我需要你做的 Here's what I want you to do.
快来看看那不勒斯"三位一体"费德里科 Behold the Naples trinity, Federico.
阁下 Your Eminence.
你知道已经有多少本写我的书了吗 Do you know how many books have been written about me?
-17本 -18本 -Seventeen. -Eighteen.
最后一本下周付印 The last one's going to press next week,
这本的书名是最好的 and it's got the best title of all.
-什么书名 -《幕后的男人》 -Which is? -The Man Behind the Scenes.
-完美 -毕竟是我提议的 -Beautiful. -Of course. I suggested it myself.
-是谁写的 -曼纳 那个左翼记者 -Who wrote it? -Manna, that leftist reporter.
也就是说他会对您百般责难 大人 That means it's going to be critical of you, Your Eminence.
那当然 但责难是最好的 他们能将人铸成传奇 Of course, those are the best. They turn you into a legend.
别太夸张 不然别人会发现你在装样子 Don't overdo it now, or people will know you're faking it.
抱歉 大人 但是刚才句话确实好笑 Forgive me, Eminence, but that was a good one.
你是该笑 但是要笑的有度 You should laugh, but in proportion.
瓦伦特 Valente.
-圣座呢 -他在直升飞机场 -His Holiness? -He's at the Heliport.
他才到这就准备走了? He just got here, and he already wants to leave?
现在你可以多笑笑了 Now you could have laughed a little more.
他派我过来告诉您 会议他会晚一点到 He sent me to tell you he'll be late for your meeting, Eminence.
好的 但是如果你见到了他 告诉他不要太晚 Okay, but if you see him, tell him not to be too late,
因为我可不像他一样游手好闲 because I, unlike him, have a lot to do.
我得指挥这一切 I've got to steer this boat,
那个优柔寡断的渔民彼得留给我的烂摊子 which that indecisive fisherman Peter left me.
瓦伦特 你觉得他怎么样? Valente, what do you make of him?
他是一个胃口很小的人 是真的很小 He's a man of little appetite. Actually... very little.
这可不是什么好迹象 不是好迹象 This is not a good sign. Not a good sign.
嬷嬷 Ma'.
别这么叫我 叫我修女玛丽 Don't ever call me Ma'. Call me Sister Mary.
这是什么 What's that?
我父亲给我的 My father gave it to me.
如果你愿意的话 我可以帮你保管 You can give it to me if you like. I'll hold on to it for you.
不 我父亲叮嘱我要随时带在身边 No. My father said that I should always keep it with me.
莱尼 Lenny!
修女玛丽 Sister Mary.
你好啊 我的圣人 Here you are, my saint.
-我可不是什么圣人 -好吧 -No, I'm not a saint. -Yes.
你还带着它吗 Do you still have it on you?
一直带着 Always.
这是什么 What's this?
路德圣母岩洞的一个仿品 A replica of the grotto of Our Lady of Lourdes.
正在整修 It's being restored.
从现在开始 你就住在整个教堂的正中心 From now on, you're going to be living at the exact center of the Church.
但是我不理解 这是什么意思 But I don't understand. What does that mean?
意味着以后去教堂正中心 That means that just now
方便了很多 the center of the Church took a few steps back.
你喜欢这间公寓吗 Do you like the apartment?
这挺好的 I'll be just fine here.
你的住处离我很近 You're only a few feet away from me.
在飞机上我看到了一个对罗马有趣的描述 On the plane I read this amusing description of Rome:
梵蒂冈的郊区 "A suburb of Vatican City."
虽然不算十分准确 Well, that's not exactly true,
但是会成真的 but it will be.
怎么了 莱尼 What's wrong, Lenny?
应该说还有什么是没问题的 玛丽修女 What's not wrong, Sister Mary.
北是这边 North is that way.
威尼斯就在那边 Where Venice is.
听我说 莱尼 Listen to me, Lenny.
从今天开始 教堂就由你领导了 Starting today, you have to lead the Church.
一亿人 One billion people.
世界人口的五分之一 One fifth of the world's population.
你懂这责任有多重大吗 莱尼 Do you understand what I'm saying, Lenny?
一亿人都在看着你的言行 One billion people will depend on what you say and do.
他们会无视个人的悲喜 They'll make important decisions, happy or sad,
甚至是生死 of life or death,
只为以上帝的名义遵循你的指令 in order to obey you, in the name of God.
所有的这些萌生了全新的视角 All of this creates a new perspective.
一个浩瀚无边的视角 An immense perspective.
从现在开始 你个人的痛苦 哪怕是巨大的折磨 Now, your personal aches, your enormous sufferings,
你那糟糕的记性 your terrible memories...
这说起来很残酷 莱尼 但我还是要说 It's a harsh thing to say, Lenny, but I have to say it,
这些东西都要退居次位了 they must take a back seat.
他们在上帝面前轻如鸿毛 They are things of this earth.
你懂我的意思吗 莱尼 Do you understand what I'm saying, Lenny?
我了解你的悲伤痛苦 I know all your sorrows,
我和你一起忍受着他们 I've lived with them together with you,
我也曾经陪着你一起流泪 I've wept over them with you,
但是现在是时候 but now the time has come for you
让你的悲伤痛苦消逝 to let your sorrows to fade,
变成无关紧要的遥远的记忆了 to become irrelevant, distant memories,
让它被上帝赋予你的巨大责任 insignificant, vanquished, destroyed and overpowered
所蔑视 征服 摧毁 并俘虏 by the terrible responsibility that God has given you.
从今往后 你将不再是莱尼·贝尔拉多 From now on, you are no longer Lenny Belardo,
那个无父无母的小男孩 the fatherless, motherless boy.
从现在开始 From now on,
您就是庇护十三世教宗 you are Pope Pius XIII,
整个天主教会的父母 Father and Mother of the entire Catholic Church.
请允许我说一句 圣座 这是何等愉悦 Allow me to say, Your Holiness, what joy!
何等愉悦啊 What joy!
连圣灵都在更好地照耀我们 The Holy Spirit could not have illumined us in a better manner.
我以整个教会的名义 欢迎您 In the name of the entire Church, welcome.
愿在您担任教宗期间长治久安 圣光照耀 硕果累累 May your pontificate be long, radiant, and fruitful.
我们来商量下长远大计吧 Let's settle for long.
多么真情动人的笑话 What a telling joke!
笑话不是用来吐露真情的 笑话就是笑话 Jokes are never telling. They're jokes.
那么 圣父 Well, Holy father,
首先 有件小事要告诉您一下 first of all, a small piece of information
一个实用且奇特的用法 of a practical and picturesque nature...
就在您的桌子下 在右边 有一个按钮 Under your desk, on the right, you will find a button.
如果您觉得某次会面令您不快 If you feel that an encounter is becoming disagreeable
或是觉得浪费时间 or a waste of time,
您只需不经意地按下按钮 all you have to do is to press it discreetly,
很快就会有人过来 找些借口 and an assistant will swiftly appear with some excuse,
帮助您脱身 liberating you from your engagement.
换句话说 就是替我说谎 He'll lie, in other words.
是的 不过他有大把时间可以用来忏悔 Yes, but he'll have plenty of time and opportunity to repent.
既然如此 圣父 如果您允许的话 Well, Holy Father, if you agree,
我想先和您谈谈我们的头等大事 I would like to start with our top priorities.
其中最要紧的就是 The most urgent of them all
您在圣彼得广场的第一次布道 is your first homily in Saint Peter's Square.
此次布道将会有很强的煽动性 There is a great deal of agitation about it,
那是某种在我漫长的生涯中 something which I, in my long career,
前所未见的东西 have never quite seen before.
整个国务卿办公室都在着手此事 The entire office of the Secretary of State is working on it.
我自己也彻夜未眠地起草 I myself worked all night long on a rough draft,
一份我将呈给您的草案 which I would like to submit you.
媒体以及信徒都将从世界各地 The press and the faithful who are coming here
前往此处来 from every corner of the globe
他们都深信您今天会为他们布道 were all convinced that you were going to deliver your homily today.
我们尽力安抚了他们的心神 We did an excellent job at calming their spirits,
但与此同时 圣座 but at the same time, Your Holiness,
我很遗憾地告诉您 只能拖延至此 I am sorry to say that we can only delay for so long.
明天是布道的绝佳日子 Tomorrow would be ideal.
这就是当下最重要的 There, this is the most pressing issue.
不 我的当务之急是一杯美式咖啡 The most pressing issue is my need for a cup of American coffee.
您可以为我倒一杯吗 主教大人 Would you make me one, Your Eminence?
当然 阿玛特奇 Certainly. Amatucci.
我没叫他倒 I didn't ask him.
我是叫你倒 I asked you.
这是我的的荣幸 It will be a pleasure and an honor for me
为你倒背咖啡 圣座 to bring you coffee, Your Holiness.
-谢谢您 主教大人 -这是我应该做的 圣父 -Thank you, Your Eminence. -It's my duty, Blessed Father.
圣父 那么 关于您的布道 Holy Father, now, about your homily,
我们打算怎么进行 how would we like to proceed, then?
等会再说吧 Later.
那请问圣父对特别助理这一微妙的职位 And has the Holy Father already thought of some candidates
是否已经考虑了一些候选人 for the delicate role of a special assistant?
-我有一个想法 -我也是 -I have an idea. -I do too.
我觉得是杰梅利大人... Monsignor Gemelli comes to mind...
我想的是玛丽修女 My idea is Sister Mary.
这真是个极好的主意 圣座 An admirable idea, Your Holiness,
也完全可以理解 and completely understandable.
但请容我提醒您一下 很不幸的是 Allow me to add, however, that unfortunately,
教堂的元老院拥有着复杂的机制 the Curia has complex mechanisms
对您来说可能就像天体物理学一样 which might seem like astrophysics.
因此 教宗大人您难免缺乏经验 Therefore, the Holy Father's inevitable lack of experience,
同样 玛丽修女也难免缺乏经验 together with Sister Mary's inevitable lack of experience
因此我将提出发自内心的建议 would lead me to suggest an internal contribution...
我很清楚玛丽修女对您多么的重要 Of course I realize how central Sister Mary seems to you.
我们可以给她创造一个特设的职务 We could invent a sort of ad hoc role for her.
我们这儿最不缺的就是想象力 We won't lack for imagination around here.
是啊 Yeah.
完全正确 沃伊洛 她的确很重要 You're exactly right, Voiello. She's central.
玛丽修女在我七岁时收留了我 Sister Mary took me in at her orphanage when I was 7 years old,
她把我养大 爱我 让我成为一名虔诚的基督徒 she raised me and she loved me. She made me a good Christian.
极为虔诚 A great Christian!
但杰梅利大人经验丰富 如果我是您 就会信赖他 Monsignor Gemelli is experienced, I would rely on him.
我觉得你没有懂我的意思 Perhaps you didn't hear me correctly.
也许吧 圣父 我的英语水平确实有限 Perhaps, Holy Father. My English does have its limits.
那你可得好好学学了 You'd better improve it then.
玛丽修女会成为我的特别助理 Sister Mary will be my special assistant.
那就这么定了 圣父 As you wish, Holy Father.
接下来是关于起草和准备 Then, of course, there is the matter of drafting
您要对红衣主教团进行的演说 and delivering your address to the College of Cardinals.
他们仍在梵蒂冈 They're all still here.
在你完成演说前他们是不会离开的 They will not leave the Vatican until you address them.
之后再说 Later.
我们秘书处 In the office of the Secretary,
一直希望教宗您 we have been wondering if the Holy Father
能就教宗通谕的起草 would care to provide us with some indications
提供一些指导 regarding the draft of an encyclical.
一会再说 Later.
各级教务长官 The prefects of the various congregations
急切地希望能亲眼见到您 are of course eager to see you with their own eyes.
但是我想您可能之后再决定? But I imagine that you would like to deal with this matter... later?
不 现在就行 No, now.
首先 我想要面见圣职长 First off, I want to meet the Prefect for the Congregation for the Clergy.
无论如何 圣父 At any rate, Holy Father,
我明白你对这个教宗通谕的不情愿 I understand your reluctance about the encyclical.
您的前任教宗总是会说 Your predecessor always made me laugh
一段让我发笑的话 when he said that...
这个通谕就像普鲁斯特的作品 《追忆似水年华》 an encyclical is like Proust's "In Search of Lost Time".
"每个人都在引用 但是从没有人真正读过" "Everyone quotes it, but no one reads it."
你睡着了吗 圣父 Are you sleeping, Holy Father?
没有 主教大人 我在祈祷 No Your Eminence, I'm praying.
为你祈祷 For you.
别再用那种眼神看维伦多夫的维纳斯 Stop looking at the Venus of Willendorf in that way.
圣父 圣父 您在做什么 Holy Father, Holy Father,
教宗皇宫里可是禁止吸烟的 smoking is not allowed in the papal palace!
是吗 Is that so?
-谁定的 -约翰·保罗二世 -Who decided that? -John Paul II.
-那个教宗 -对 就是那位教宗 -The Pope? -Yes, the Pope.
现在有新的教宗了 There's a new Pope now.
当然 True.
-主教大人 -是 圣父 -Your Eminence... -Yes, Holy Father.
你太执恋于过去了 You're too tied to the past.
他们也是这样说您的 圣座 They say the same thing about you, Your Holiness.
过去是一个囊括了一切的庞然大物 它属于所有人 The past is an enormous place, with all sorts of things inside.
但如今不是了 Not so with the present.
现今只是一个通往未来的窄巷口 The present is merely a narrow opening,
窄到只有一人能看到未来 with room for only one pair of eyes.
那就是我 Mine.
-主教大人 -是 -Your eminence. -Yes.
我们的那些首要任务 Our top priorities.
好的 我想说的是... Here I am. As I was saying...
你将负责处理政治 You will be in charge of politics,
财务 神学 finance, theology,
和人事这几方面的内部事务 appointments and promotions.
而我则会处理那些梵蒂冈地界之外的事 I will take care of worldly matters,
巡游 民众的赞誉和那些庆典 travel, adulation of the masses, celebrations.
如此分工极为明智 圣父 A most effective division of roles, Holy Father.
-主教大人 -圣父 怎么了 -Your Eminence. -Yes, Blessed Father?
我不过是在开玩笑 I was just kidding.
-难道没有察觉出来吗 -没有 -That wasn't obvious? -Hardly!
说正事 我们的首要任务 So, as I was saying, our top priorities are...
第一 梵蒂冈电台的信号需要改进 One: the Radio Vatican signal needs boosting.
信号接收差得我无法接受 It is unacceptable that reception is so poor.
第二 我需要查看收到的全部进贡 Two: the pope wants to see all the gifts the pope receives.
把收到的礼品放到一个专门的储存室里 Have a storage facility fitted out for storing all the gifts I receive.
第三 教廷必须立刻把存放在华盛顿大教堂里的 Three: the Vatican must immediately buy back the papal tiara
三重冕给赎回来 from the basilica in Washington DC,
正是我主张不要沉浸于过去和传统的前任 which my predecessors, who favoured sobriety over tradition,
不小心遗落的那个 imprudently let go.
第四 And four...
玛丽修女将负责监督你 Sister Mary will also look after you.
她会监督你一切的行为 She will oversee all your activities
并且直接向我汇报 and report directly back to me.
她将作为你的守护天使 She will be your guardian angel.
我60岁了 圣父 I am sixty-year-old, Holy Father.
我不需要什么守护天使 I don't need a guardian angel.
我们都需要守护天使的 沃伊洛 Oh, we all need a guardian angel, Voiello.
尤其是那些肆无忌惮 含糊不清的人 Especially unscrupulous, ambiguous men.
那么 请允许我自己选择守护天使 Then, please, allow me to choose mine myself.
无论是来世 In another life.
还是今世 In this life,
都是由教宗为你选择守护天使 the Pope chooses your guardian angel for you.
而他就是教宗 And he is the Pope.
您找我吗 圣父 Did you call for me, Holy Father?
教宗 Papa!
最终一切都会回到这里 是吧 It all comes back to this in the end, doesn't it?
回到母亲身边 To the mother.
您的母亲是一个怎样的人 古铁雷斯大人 How was your mother like, Monsignor Gutierrez?
她不会去敌视邪恶 She was a woman who did not scorn wickedness.
而这种仁慈培养出一个心地善良的儿子 And it had the effect of creating a son full of goodness.
我调查过你 I've inquired about you.
每个人都告诉我你就是善良的化身 Everyone tells me you are a shining example of goodness.
我很感谢您能相信他们 圣父 I thank you for believing them, Holy Father.
该谢的人是我才对 It is I who should thank you,
能让我站在这里 而不被成群游客的干扰 for allowing me to be here without hordes of tourists.
这是我的职责 圣父 That's my duty, Holy Father.
这困难吗 不向参拜者们开放巴西利卡 Was it hard? To close off the Basilica to tourists?
不 我们只需要挂个牌子 上面写上 关门了 No, no, all we had to do was hang up a sign saying "closed".
我从不对游客掩饰自己的厌恶 I will never shed my aversion to tourists.
为什么呢 圣父 Why is that, Holy Father?
因为他们只是过客 Because they are just passing through.
我没能找到你的办公室 所以来晚了 I was late because I couldn't find your office.
我知道 您走错门了 I know. You opened the wrong door
恰巧撞见了教堂的参观者 and found yourself face to face with some visitors to our museum.
噢 你也调查过我啊 Oh, you've been inquired about me too.
在梵蒂冈很少有秘密 It's very difficult to keep anything secret here in the Vatican.
流言总是不胫而走 Rumors fly so quickly
甚至有些完全是无中生有 that sometimes they arrive even before the event has taken place.
这对我来说真是个有用的信息 That's quite a useful piece of information for my future.
这会是你将来要面对的 圣父 Which is exactly what it was intended to be, Holy Father.
该怎么做才行 大人 What is one to do, Monsignor?
这就是时代 在美国 我们称之为流言蜚语 It's the times. In America, we call it gossip.
在梵蒂冈 我们称之为诽谤 Here in the Vatican we call it calumny.
这边 This way.
你在梵蒂冈呆了多长时间了 How many years have you been at the Vatican?
太久了 我已经不再数了 So many that I've stopped to counting.
你喜欢这儿吗 Do you like it here?
嗯 这里让我有安全感 Yes, I feel safe here.
就好像时间静止了 It's as if time were dead.
说到时间 Speaking of that time,
在进行教宗选举的那天 the other day, during the Conclave,
我读了一篇意大利的新闻 I read an Italian newspaper.
是关于一个政客的 It was an article about this politician
他把一些秘密性文件 who had hidden some compromising files
藏在了自家屋内的墙壁中间 in the gaps between the walls of his house.
对 我也看过这篇报道 Yes, I read about that as well.
我在想 I thought...
我不需要在我屋子里的缝隙里藏些什么 I wouldn't need to hide anything in the gaps in my house.
因为我的心便是一道缝隙 Because my mind is a gap.
所有东西都藏在我的心里 And everything that is hidden from me,
迟早 sooner or later...
都会大白于天下 is revealed.
就好像是一切都委托于我 As if it were being entrusted to me.
领导教会的一个漂亮手段 A precious skill for leading the Church.
那不是手段 古铁雷斯 It's not a skill, Gutierrez...
是我的命运 it's my destiny.
费德里科 你知道为什么世上所有纯洁的灵魂 Federico, do you know why all the good souls of this world
-都极其厌恶权力吗 -为什么 主教大人 -rage against power? -Why, Your Eminence?
因为他们只是不清楚权力到底是什么 Because they simply don't know what it is.
是什么呢 What is it?
权力即是洞悉一切 Power is knowledge.
您到底想知道些什么 主教大人 What is it you want to know, Eminence?
庇护十三世是什么人 更准确地说 莱尼·贝拉尔多是什么人 Who is Pius XIII? Or rather, who was Lenny Belardo?
你得做一个小小的调查 You need to carry out a small investigation,
谨慎但要彻底 discreet but thorough.
他的每一个污点 创伤 苦难还有他的罪孽 His week spots, traumas and tribulations, his sins.
尤其是他的罪孽 Especially his sins.
因为过去所犯下的罪恶 Because the sins we commit in the past
和未来会犯下的罪恶都是一样的 are the same ones we'll commit in the future.
因为人类就像上帝那样 永远不会改变 Because man is like God. He never changes.
我现在就着手去办 I'll start right in.
但是教会的境况已经如此严峻了吗 But is the situation of this papacy already that serious?
还没到那个地步 但是我们需要 No, not yet. But if it were to become so,
未雨绸缪 we'll be ready.
那些有权势者也许比别人知道的多 Because the powerful may have knowledge,
但是他们没有意识到如何才能权倾朝野 but they don't realize what it takes to be more powerful than anyone else.
是什么呢 And what does it take?
看 它多美啊 See how beautiful it is?
你必须先人一步 It takes getting knowledge before anyone else does.
真是难以置信 Fabulous.
托马索 继续说 别害怕 Go on, Tommaso, don't be afraid.
但是泄露忏悔的秘密... But violating the secret of the confessional is...
不 不 这不算泄密 No, no, it's not.
如果信息是为我 教宗 Not if the information is intended for me, the Pontiff,
何况这是为了拯救我们的教堂 and is for the survival of our Church.
托马索 别让我失望 Don't disappoint me, Tommaso.
圣座 我只是一个贫穷单纯的神父 Your Holiness, I'm just a poor, simple priest,
守护忏悔的秘密 and the secret of the confessional
是我仅有的值得尊敬的事了 is the only respectable thing I have.
现在是 但是想想以后吧 Today. But think of tomorrow.
将来你会有深红的长袍和戒指 Scarlet robes and the ring are in your future.
亲爱的托马索 和红衣主教的职位相比 哪个更令人尊敬 The cardinalship, my dear. Which is much more respectable.
要是有人听到了我们怎么办 What if someone hears us?
在这只有他能听见我们 Only he can hear us up here.
谁知道他在哪儿 Who knows where he is?
那里 在北斗七星那儿 There! By the big dipper.
上帝的房子就在那儿 That's where God's house is.
上帝的房子 是什么样子 God's house! What's it like?
半双工的 并且带有私人游泳池 Half of a duplex, with a private swimming pool.
二联式住宅
说吧 告诉我人们犯下的罪孽吧 Come on now, tell me people's sins.
好吧 Well...
我告诉过您沃伊洛对于沃尔道夫的维纳斯 have I already told you about Voiello's impure thoughts
存有不洁的想法吧 about the Venus of Willendorf?
是的 你已经告诉过我了 还有什么别的么 Yes, yes you told me already. What else?
不 没有别的了 No, nothing...
今天红衣主教阿吉雷模仿了您 Cardinal Aguirre did an imitation
圣座 of you today, Your Holiness.
-每个人都捧腹大笑 -你笑了吗 -Everyone laughed. -Did you laugh?
我笑了 但只是偷笑 所以没有人注意到 Yes, but to myself. So no one noticed.
很好 还有其他的事吗 Good. What else?
每个人都很好奇玛丽修女和您是什么关系 Everybody is wondering who Sister Mary is to you,
她在这儿干什么 what she's doing here.
还有呢 What else?
他们还想知道 Everybody is also wondering:
教宗是否在考虑他的第一次布道 is the Pope thinking about his first homily?
我也一直在问自己同样的问题 I ask myself the same thing all the time.
当然 我正在考虑这件事 Of course I'm thinking about it.
我现在心里只想着布道 我甚至梦到了它 It's all I think about. I even dreamed about it.
我要告诉你一个秘密 I'm let you in on a secret:
从我小时候起 我就学会了用在我脑中的东西 ever since I was little, I've learned to confound people's ideas
去混淆人们的想法 on what's going on in my head.
圣父 你真是太聪慧了 You're so wise, Holy Father.
我不但聪慧 Not only that,
我还从不妥协 性情急躁 I'm also intransigent, irritable,
报复心强 vindictive...
和惊人的记忆力 and I have a prodigious memory.
现在我想对自己的行为作出忏悔 And now I want to make my confession.
-好的 到楼下去吧 -不 就在这儿 -Fine. Let's go back downstairs---No, here.
在上帝的房子前 Before the house of God.
噢 好的 Oh... okay.
以圣父 圣子 圣灵的名义 In nomine Patris, et Filii et Spiritus Sancti.
上帝啊 我的良心没有谴责我 God, my conscience does not accuse me,
因为你不相信我会对自己的作为感到懊悔 because you do not believe I am capable of repenting.
因此 我不相信你 And therefore, I do not believe in you.
我不相信你能把我从我自己手中拯救出来 I don't believe you are capable of saving me from myself.
圣父 您在说些什么 Holy father, what are you saying?
我说我不相信上帝 托马索 I'm saying that I don't believe in God, Tommaso.
圣父 您在说些什么啊 What are you saying, Blessed Father?
托马索 托马索 Tommaso, Tommaso.
我只是开个玩笑 I was joking.