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In the last hundred years,

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our understanding of the universe
has advanced far further

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than in previous centuries.

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We have discovered that the universe

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and time itself had a beginning
fifteen billion years ago.

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There was a cosmic explosion of energy,
called the big bang.

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The energy produced all of the matter
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from stars and galaxies
to our own planet,

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and even ourselves.

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Yet one guestion still needs an answers:
How did the big bang begin?

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We need to know the laws that
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when the universe sprang into existence.

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Are these initial laws over and
above the laws

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that tell us how the universe evolves?

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Or is there a theory of everything that
governs the universe at all times

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and determines how it begins
and develops?

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Atlantic City is a giant playground.

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But for many,

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the fading attractions of
old Atlantic City are less fascinating

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than the uncertainties of
its modern casinos.

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Sidney Coleman knows it's the same
with physics

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Physics starts out by trying to
explain the sort of phenomena

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that occur in
everyday life - balls bouncing

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and planets grounding around the sun,
and all that stuff.

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And that's also pretty
much the sort of stuff that,

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er, you encounter in everyday life,

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and your tacit assumptions about
those things

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and how they behave are deeply embedded
in the language of everyday speech.

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That's how the language of
everyday speech developed.

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But physics has now
probed beyond the familiar.

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Theorists like Sidney Coleman
spend their days

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making long imaginary journeys
into strange worlds,

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far removed from everyday life.

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As physics develops and physicists want
to find out more and more,

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they try and understand physics which
reveals itself

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only under extreme conditions
on the inside of an atom,

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in a high-energy accelerator,

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in a guasar, at the,
during the beginning of the universe

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Now it would be really remarkable

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if the concepts of everyday
speech continued to be valid

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when we extend the universe
of study so enormously.

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It's only natural that,

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as we get farther and farther
from everyday experience,

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the theories we have to describe
all this new stuff,

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in addition to everyday experience,

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should look less and less intuitive.

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Why should your intuitions have developed
to be good inside a guasar?

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Your ancestors did not spend any time
inside guasars.

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So, things seem to get,

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from our viewpoint,

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our earth-bound viewpoint,
stranger and stranger.

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One thing we now accept is that
the universe is expanding.

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But if it is getting bigger with time,

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then it must once have been very small.

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When you trace the evolution of
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you inevitably find yourself being pushed
towards the physics of the very small.

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This small world has its own
strange language.

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And it's at this scale,

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millions of times smaller than
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that the universe must have begun.

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The study of these subatomic particles
is called guantum mechanics.

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Two foundation stones,

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really, on which we've built the current
modern picture of the universe

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and the matter in it are
guantum mechanics and general relativity.

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Einstein was instrumental in both of
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he was a founder of guantum theory and
the sole inventor of general relativity,

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and the picture that
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is a very good one,

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in the sense we can make
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and explain a lot of phenomena,

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er, but the picture is really only
partial in many ways,

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and one of the problems is that
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in fact, don't fit together.

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Einstein's theory of general relativity

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describes the large-scale universe
we see today.

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Quantum mechanics describes the behaviour
of things smaller than atoms.

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As small as the universe was when
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A complete description of the universe
has to embrace everything,

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from the tiniest particle to
the largest galaxy.

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The two theories have to match up.

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Einstein believed that
he could find a way to make them fit,

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Because the methods that
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before had always worked,

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he'd been very successful
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he trusted his instincts,

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so his instinct was that
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which described
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At the time,

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Einstein was the only one thinking that
the two theories could be unified.

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Isolated by the scientific community,
he worked on.

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He spent decades on this work.

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He worked, basically, alone,

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I think that no-one else shared his view,

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er, that this was the way to go,
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So he was very solitary,

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and he was working by himself up until
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When Einstein died, in 1955,

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half-finished notes describing a theory
of unification were discovered by his bed

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He had failed to achieve his dream.

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But Einstein was ahead of his time.

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Forty years later,

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the importance of his lone guest
has become recognised.

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Now, theorists everywhere are
searching for a single eguation

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to describe the workings
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What they want is a theory of everything.

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At the beginning,
the universe is a central point.

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The next instant,
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we need a theory of everything,

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which is still just beyond our grasp.

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However, we already have some ideas

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why the expansion of the early universe
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There are already a number of
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which begin to describe
how the universe must have grown.

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They have been carefully built up from
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Of what conditions in the early universe
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It is only by constantly matching theory
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that a clearer picture can emerge.

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Giant particle accelerators,

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such as SLAC, in California,
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These explosive collisions
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and pressures which can be measured.

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The same measurable conditions must have
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scientists began to tackle
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necessary for our universe to exist.

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What was always needed,
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was that you had to assume that
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was tuned almost exactly right.

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That is, almost exactly the
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so that the universe would be
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of eternal expansion versus
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er, if one talks about
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of about one second after the big bang,

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this precise fixing of the expansion rate
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of about fifteen decimal places.

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If the universe just expanded one part
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faster than we thought it had,

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it would fly apart without galaxies
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er, if the universe at one second
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Expanding with one number
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than what we thought,

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then the universe would collapse

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before galaxies had ever
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the universe had to be perched
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Guth was puzzled that our universe
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of such a magical eguilibrium,

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slowly growing in
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for the last
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Alan Guth had managed to grapple with
mathematics of extraordinary complexity.

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Yet, in many ways,

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what he was really doing was responding

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to the simple intuitive guestions
of a child.

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When I was still a kid,

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I asked myself the guestion,

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well, how would it happen

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that in different parts of the universe
expansion started simultaneously?

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Who gave the signal?

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How can I understand it?

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And then I thought that maybe when
I will grow older I will open the books

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which are written by clever professors
and I will find out the answer.

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When I grew older,

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I found that people did not know that
the guestion exists.

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Unknown to Alan Guth,

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a Russian called Andrei Linde
was also tackling the problem

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of expansion in the early universe

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During the last fifteen years we've
learned the guestion can be answered.

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Linde now lives in California.

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But in the 1970s,

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he and Guth were working on
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on an idea that
came to be known as 'inflation'.

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So, would you give me a glass of water.

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Inflation suggested a way
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Lf, somehow, energy could be
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it would naturally expand
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released all at once.

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Perhaps these bubbles
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and rapidly expand as one vast bubble,

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producing all the symmetry needed for
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and guickly expanding
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Linde, in Moscow,

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and Guth in California guite separately
had the same inspiration.

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They needed to do detailed calculations
to see if the idea worked out.

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In 1979, on a December evening,

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Guth opened a notebook
and started to write.

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I had not yet calculated everything
through that night,

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enough to convince myself that
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and that it would probably work.

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The next morning I raced back to SLAC,

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and actually I kept track of
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and I set a new record that morning,

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I whipped out my notebook and
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and by, I guess,
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I convinced myself that
it did fit together.

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Andrei Linde had also started
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But as he worked through the detail,

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it seemed as though inflation theory
couldn't actually work in practice.

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In California,
Guth encountered the same problem.

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As I continued to work on inflation,

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I did however discover that
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that inflation finally ended.

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It happened just like water boils,

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a bubble would form here,

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a bubble would form there,

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the bubbles would grow and collide,

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and form an incredible morass of matter
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We look at,

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in fact, nothing whatever like
our universe looks like.

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This was a serious problem that
clearly reguired modification.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome, Sir.

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But Guth went ahead and
published his theory.

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Even with its flaws,
inflation caused a sensation.

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But Linde was worried when
he read Guth's paper.

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He felt he had to find a solution
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to give inflation respectability.

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I don't know whether you know or not,

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but I had an ulcer,

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which was induced by the work,

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in some sense, because when I
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er, and I, I was really literally
thinking in these terms

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that God could not be so stupid to lose
this opportunity to make the world,

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er, in such a economical way,

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and when I found a solution,
the ulcer has gone.

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Well, er, so sometimes physics help.

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Linde's new idea was simple.

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What if just one bubble of energy inflated
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It was about eleven at night,

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and I could not keep myself from,

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well, this feeling of happiness and
I came to my wife and eventually awake her

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and I told her,

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look, it seems that I know how
our universe could have emerged.

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I first announced it,

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new inflationist scenario,

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at, in the meeting of
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which occurred in October '81,
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many very good physicist in Moscow,

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and the star of the meeting
was Steve Hawking.

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I gave a seminar with Andrei translating.

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When I said there was a difficulty with
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Andrei said that the whole universe
could be a single bubble.

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I objected, because the bubble would
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than the universe at the time.

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In the middle of his talk,

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he told that, well,

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there was a very interesting idea
of Andrei Linde recently

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this was just my talk the previous day,

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and I was all my head
in it's translating it,

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and then he says but
but this model,

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this idea does not work,
and let me explain why.

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And he start talking and talking

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and I'm translating it,

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and for a half an hour,

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in the face of all the institute,

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I was explaining them why
new inflation just simply cannot work.

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In front of his Russian peers,

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Linde's new theory had been demolished.

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But he was determined to
continue the debate.

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And then I asked him,

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would you like to actually to understand
the details of this,

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and he told me, sure,

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and then we disappeared for two hours,

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all the institute was trying to catch
Steve everywhere,

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and the famous physicist disappeared,

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the whole institute was in panic.

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Linde and Guth had given us
an important idea.

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Inflation accounts so neatly for the way
the universe has to expand.

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I'm sure it must be
part of the final picture.

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But inflation by itself does not explain
the start of the universe

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We still need a theory of
everything for that.

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But in applying the theory
to the beginning of the universe

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would be difficult,
because my own work had shown

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that the eguations would break down
at the big bang.

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You can take Einstein's eguations and
run them backwards in time,

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not for a real universe,

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which is awful complicated,

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full of lumps and irregularities,

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but for a simplified model
of the universe,

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where matter is,

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distributed smoothly and
uniformly throughout the universe,

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and when you did run it
backwards in time, you found,

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eventually, there was a point in which
everything came together at a single point

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where gravitational fields became
infinitely strong,

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energy densities became infinitely high,

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technically we call it a singularity.

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The universe at its birth needed to have
some fluctuations in density

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and velocity to enable
particles to be formed.

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But the maths of the singularity
won't predict any such fluctuations.

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In fact,
they won't predict anything at all.

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What happens at a point of singularity
becomes a matter of pure speculation.

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Physicists like to solve eguations,

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they like to say,
if this is the way things are now,

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this is the way
they'll be a year from now.

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Once you hit a singularity,

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you can't do that,

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the eguations blow up and
you don't know what to do with them.

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This is disturbing,
people don't like singularities.

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The best bet for solving the problem
looked like being guantum mechanics.

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Quantum mechanics is probably
the strangest thing human minds

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have ever thought up.

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I think if a thousand philosophers were
to work for a thousand years,

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trying to think of something of
maximum strangeness,

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they wouldn't have thought up anything
as strange as guantum mechanics.

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At the heart of guantum mechanics
is the idea of chance.

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It's called the uncertainty principle.

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If a subatomic particle isn't moving,

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it's too small to detect.

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But there are ways to trace the path of
a moving particle.

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You can never find out with precision
where anything so small really is,

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but you can have a very good idea
of its probable position.

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This probability,

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the principle of uncertainty,

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does seem to work.

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Strange as it is,

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it is apparently the way
the universe works,

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that enables us to make predictions

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about all sorts of processes involving
atoms or elementary particles colliding,

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that are verified by experiment
to amazing degrees of accuracy.

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The problem is that these laws of
uncertainty only seem to make sense

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of the universe at its moment of creation.

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They can't be applied to the big universe
we now experience,

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a universe described with
incredible accuracy

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by Einstein's theory
of general relativity.

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A lot of people have been trying to
combine guantum mechanics

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with gravity over the years,

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a guantum mechanical replacement or
Einstein's general relativity.

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I wanted to resolve the problem
of the singularity.

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After all, I was largely responsible for
raising it in the first place.

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Maybe one could choose a path around it.

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Hawking saw that
the uncertainty that came

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when you tried to
combine guantum mechanics

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and gravity was in fact as escape route,

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and can be used to get away from the,

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avoid the singularity problem,

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which he himself had done
so much to raise.

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In a remarkable paper,

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done in collaboration with James Hartle,

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er, Hawking was able to solve a very,

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very simplified model of the universe

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Jim Hartle and I showed
how a universe like our own

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could be born without
the troublesome singularity.

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It involved the use of what
is called imaginary time.

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This may sound like science fiction,

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but it is a well-defined scientific
concept that science fiction borrowed.

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The idea was that in imaginary time,

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the universe has no boundary,

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no beginning or end,

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it just curls round on itself
like the surface of the earth.

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It was a complete guantum mechanical
description of everything

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that could be said about this
simplified model of the universe,

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and it had no singularities.

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It's possible that
guantum mechanics is the answer

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to the problem of the singularity.

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I have to make it clear that
the no-boundary universe

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is just a proposal,
but it has some interesting implications.

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Without boundaries, the universe
has no beginning and no end.

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We don't have to explain its creation.

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The universe simply exists, but the
conseguences of the no-boundary proposal

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cannot be worked out fully without
a complete guantum theory of gravity

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that will unite general relativity
and guantum mechanics.

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We are back to the search for
a theory of everything

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In 1985, a new theory emerged,

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which raised hopes that
the search might soon be over.

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You're tuned to WBAI, 99.5 FM,

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on your dial,

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coming up next - Explorations with
Dr Michio Kaku.

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Welcome.
This is Exploration.

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This is Dr Michio Kaku,
Professor of Theoretical Physics,

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and this is a programme devoted to science

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and the fantastic discoveries
as we explore the universe Now,

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of course,

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superstring theory,

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the theory that will perhaps give us an
explanation for the entire universe.

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Some people say the instant
of the big bang,

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the universe was a dot.

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The new picture is that
it's like a bowl of noodles,

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a bowl of noodles where we have thousands
and millions of little strings,

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vibrating at the instant of time,

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that exploded,

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creating the enormous diversity of matter
and energy that we see around us.

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Superstring theory is so bizarre,

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so strange,

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that we were not destined to see
this theory in the twentieth century.

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00:26:39,731 --> 00:26:43,098
Many of us believe that
it's really twenty-first-century physics

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that fell accidentally
into the twentieth century.

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It was discovered by accident,

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a fluke.

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00:26:51,476 --> 00:26:54,070
A mathematician was
reading up on topology when,

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guite by chance,

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he noticed an eguation which described
the behaviour of a particle.

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Then he found another,
describing gravity.

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Could this branch of maths contain within
it the theory of everything?

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So we have two great theories of physics,

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the theory of the very big,

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Einstein's theory of relativity,

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and the theory of the very small,
the guantum theory.

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00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:20,400
And these two theories
don't like each other,

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they are incompatible,
one is smooth, beautiful, like marble,

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and the other one is coarse and grainy,
like wood.

402
00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:28,744
And to get them to,

403
00:27:28,847 --> 00:27:33,045
to meet together has been the object of
the last fifty years

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00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:35,119
of intense investigation.

405
00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:37,045
Today, we think we have it.

406
00:27:37,222 --> 00:27:39,782
We think we have the superstring theory,

407
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,459
which is perhaps the most fantastic,

408
00:27:42,727 --> 00:27:46,857
the most marvellous theory ever proposed
in the history of science.

409
00:27:50,135 --> 00:27:53,866
After years trying to
connect two incompatible theories,

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00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:56,597
now there was a radical new candidate,

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based on tiny magical strings.

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00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:05,645
Strings are extremely tiny,

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00:28:05,817 --> 00:28:08,945
like a hundred billion billion times
smaller than a proton,

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00:28:09,087 --> 00:28:09,951
so let me explain.

415
00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:13,847
Take a atom, and expand it to the size
of the solar system.

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00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:16,525
If the atom were the size of.
Our solar system,

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00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:22,395
then a string is much smaller than that,
a string is the size of an atom.

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00:28:22,901 --> 00:28:25,802
That is how incredibly tiny this all is.

419
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:31,574
We also think that once upon a time
the universe was the size of a string

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00:28:37,949 --> 00:28:40,543
When stings move, they vibrate.

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00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:44,849
They force the space
around it to curl up, to bend,

422
00:28:44,956 --> 00:28:47,720
exactly as Einstein had predicted.

423
00:28:58,269 --> 00:29:00,897
Now the guestion that
scientists had grappled with

424
00:29:01,005 --> 00:29:04,805
since Einstein seemed as
if it was about to be answered.

425
00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:06,703
With string theory,

426
00:29:06,845 --> 00:29:09,245
it looked like there was no difference
between the worlds

427
00:29:09,347 --> 00:29:11,508
of the big and the small.

428
00:29:12,217 --> 00:29:15,311
We physicists have been puzzled by
the fact that we have matter,

429
00:29:15,453 --> 00:29:17,614
like atoms, and we have forces,

430
00:29:17,722 --> 00:29:19,280
like, er, like gravity,

431
00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:20,789
that, that attract atoms.

432
00:29:20,992 --> 00:29:24,155
Now we realise that
this dichotomy between force

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00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:27,254
and matter is really
not a dichotomy at all.

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00:29:27,365 --> 00:29:30,266
These are nothing but
vibrations of the same string.

435
00:29:30,435 --> 00:29:33,233
One string that vibrates
could be a guark,

436
00:29:33,438 --> 00:29:35,565
another string that vibrates
could be an electron.

437
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:39,904
But yet another string that vibrates that
vibrates could be light, a photon,

438
00:29:40,011 --> 00:29:42,343
or Einstein's theory of gravity.

439
00:29:44,916 --> 00:29:48,044
But the full potential of string theory
is still unknown.

440
00:29:48,419 --> 00:29:50,319
It seems to offer answers,

441
00:29:50,855 --> 00:29:54,484
but the eguations also
create a new set of guestions

442
00:29:54,959 --> 00:29:58,122
guestions that
at the moment we can't answer.

443
00:30:00,665 --> 00:30:02,155
These eguations are well defined,

444
00:30:02,267 --> 00:30:03,199
they're well known,

445
00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:04,563
but some people think that perhaps

446
00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:07,263
we humans are not smart enough
to solve them.

447
00:30:07,438 --> 00:30:09,872
Think of a duck, or, or,

448
00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:13,135
er, a monkey, why should a duck
or a monkey understand

449
00:30:13,344 --> 00:30:17,075
calculus, or electric fields,
or black holes?

450
00:30:17,248 --> 00:30:21,514
And why is it that we have the power
to understand the big bang

451
00:30:21,619 --> 00:30:22,881
and the black holes?

452
00:30:23,054 --> 00:30:23,952
And then the guestion is,

453
00:30:24,055 --> 00:30:27,252
are we smart enough to understand
the theory of everything?

454
00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:29,388
At the present time - no.

455
00:30:30,762 --> 00:30:32,559
By the end of the eighties,

456
00:30:32,697 --> 00:30:36,633
I and a number of other physicists
were beginning to wonder

457
00:30:36,768 --> 00:30:41,535
if string theory really
was the ultimate theory of the universe

458
00:30:42,173 --> 00:30:47,440
One problem was that
there were five different string theories.

459
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:51,881
So much for a single theory of everything.

460
00:30:58,156 --> 00:31:03,389
The American cosmologist Lee Smolin
took a lonely step back from physics.

461
00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:08,289
He wondered if we were looking for
the wrong thing.

462
00:31:08,766 --> 00:31:13,669
Why should the answer to the universe be
contained in a mathematical eguation?

463
00:31:16,274 --> 00:31:21,234
The hope behind string theory originally
was that there would be one simple law

464
00:31:21,412 --> 00:31:25,007
which would have a unigue solution,

465
00:31:25,116 --> 00:31:28,176
which would explain how the,
universe is,

466
00:31:28,386 --> 00:31:30,445
the history of the universe, and so forth,

467
00:31:30,788 --> 00:31:35,521
and that hope that all the guestions
would be answered

468
00:31:35,693 --> 00:31:40,096
in a single law is what has not happened
in string theory.

469
00:31:44,202 --> 00:31:45,863
It was thinking about this,

470
00:31:46,137 --> 00:31:48,970
at the same time
I was reading about biology,

471
00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:52,571
er, that led me to begin to wonder

472
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:55,542
whether the answers
to some of the guestions

473
00:31:56,114 --> 00:32:00,676
in elementary particle physics
did not rest in a single unigue theory,

474
00:32:00,785 --> 00:32:04,687
but maybe would be a result
of historical accident,

475
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:08,953
and maybe there could be
a process by which,

476
00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:12,256
through a series of developments in the
early history of the universe,

477
00:32:12,797 --> 00:32:16,164
somehow the universe chose
what its parameters were.

478
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,837
The wonderful thing about
the biological world is

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00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:22,372
that it's so complicated.

480
00:32:23,041 --> 00:32:24,906
There are so many different species,

481
00:32:25,276 --> 00:32:28,404
they're so beautiful in
so many different ways,

482
00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:32,681
and one would think that one could not
possibly explain this,

483
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:35,344
which is of course what
people thought before Darwin.

484
00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:42,425
What Darwin discovered is that
there is a rational way to understand

485
00:32:42,593 --> 00:32:46,859
how such enormous variety and complexity
can come to be in the natural world,

486
00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:48,760
without being put there
in the first place,

487
00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:54,463
and the basic idea is that
you have some population,

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00:32:54,639 --> 00:32:56,163
which can reproduce itself,

489
00:32:56,541 --> 00:32:58,406
that when it does so,

490
00:32:58,609 --> 00:33:03,103
there are small random changes
in the characteristics,

491
00:33:03,348 --> 00:33:07,910
and that these characteristics
lead to differences

492
00:33:08,052 --> 00:33:10,179
in how well the creatures survive.

493
00:33:12,924 --> 00:33:18,419
Could Darwin's idea of natural selection
somehow be applied to our universe?

494
00:33:25,636 --> 00:33:28,002
If one studies astronomy on scales much,

495
00:33:28,106 --> 00:33:29,937
much larger than the earth,

496
00:33:30,041 --> 00:33:32,339
for example, the disk of a spiral galaxy,

497
00:33:32,543 --> 00:33:36,035
one discovers it's a complex
self-organised system,

498
00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:39,946
somewhat akin to biology on
a much simpler level.

499
00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:47,387
It turns out that The new possibility

500
00:33:47,492 --> 00:33:51,326
which Darwin gave us is that
a system can have all the beauty

501
00:33:51,429 --> 00:33:53,420
and variety and complexity of our world.

502
00:33:53,564 --> 00:33:55,896
And be assembled from itself,

503
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400
that it can organise itself over time.

504
00:34:02,006 --> 00:34:07,103
What twentieth-century science
is leading to is,

505
00:34:07,345 --> 00:34:09,813
in my view, I mean,
of course could be wrong,

506
00:34:10,048 --> 00:34:13,108
the culmination
of this view of the universe

507
00:34:13,217 --> 00:34:17,347
as something which does create itself
and assemble itself.

508
00:34:21,292 --> 00:34:23,522
In Russia, Andrei Linde was also.

509
00:34:23,628 --> 00:34:25,562
Thinking about evolution.

510
00:34:26,297 --> 00:34:28,595
But his thinking stayed rooted in physics,

511
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:34,136
as he tried to perfect the
inflation theory It wasn't proving easy.

512
00:34:34,305 --> 00:34:37,763
Russian politics were affecting
his health and his work.

513
00:34:38,242 --> 00:34:40,938
85 was the first year of perestroika,

514
00:34:41,479 --> 00:34:43,276
so the first year of
perestroika Gorbachev

515
00:34:43,381 --> 00:34:48,910
just came to power and
they started reconstructing everything,

516
00:34:49,053 --> 00:34:51,248
which is a translation
of the Russian perestroika,

517
00:34:51,456 --> 00:34:55,017
the reconstruction, and as a first step,

518
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:59,090
they completely forbidden us to send
our papers abroad,

519
00:34:59,964 --> 00:35:03,661
so I have a feeling that I am living
with my mouth shut,

520
00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:09,000
I cannot tell others what I am doing,
and this was pretty depressing.

521
00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:15,812
So it became so much depressing
the actually I became simply ill,

522
00:35:16,147 --> 00:35:19,310
and now I was lying in the bed for about
a month and a half,

523
00:35:19,484 --> 00:35:20,576
and then, all of a sudden,

524
00:35:20,685 --> 00:35:22,414
there was a call from Academy of Sciences,

525
00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:25,316
and they told me that I must go to Italy

526
00:35:25,456 --> 00:35:27,890
to give some popular lectures
on astronomy,

527
00:35:27,992 --> 00:35:30,893
and I told them,
I am ill, I cannot go.

528
00:35:33,998 --> 00:35:35,522
After years of repression,

529
00:35:35,666 --> 00:35:38,464
suddenly Linde was free to say
what he liked.

530
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,998
But he only had twenty-four hours
to think of a new idea.

531
00:35:45,576 --> 00:35:48,977
After this year with the mouth shut,

532
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,747
they are suggesting me that
if I do something,

533
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:55,314
then tomorrow it will be sent there

534
00:35:55,419 --> 00:35:58,286
by diplomatic mail
without any approvement,

535
00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:02,017
without any signatures,
without any of these bureaucratic work,

536
00:36:02,126 --> 00:36:03,889
tomorrow it will be in Italy.

537
00:36:04,328 --> 00:36:06,091
On the other hand, it can,

538
00:36:06,264 --> 00:36:10,724
it must be done just immediately,
and, and I am really sick,

539
00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:15,498
I just cannot think, I, I took my head
like that and I started,

540
00:36:15,606 --> 00:36:18,234
what can I invent within half an hour

541
00:36:18,442 --> 00:36:20,239
or so I will write it today in the evening

542
00:36:20,344 --> 00:36:22,005
and tomorrow I'll sent it to Italy,

543
00:36:22,213 --> 00:36:24,147
what can I do within half an hour?

544
00:36:25,316 --> 00:36:27,113
And within half an hour,

545
00:36:27,251 --> 00:36:30,015
I have got a theory of
self-reproducing universe.

546
00:36:33,124 --> 00:36:34,716
In Linde's new theory,

547
00:36:34,892 --> 00:36:37,793
inflation does not take place
in a bubble at all.

548
00:36:38,629 --> 00:36:40,221
Instead of one universe growing,

549
00:36:40,331 --> 00:36:43,198
his eguations predict that
there have to be many.

550
00:36:44,001 --> 00:36:48,233
All will be different,
and all will have their own big bang.

551
00:36:49,273 --> 00:36:51,639
In time,
they will seed other universes,

552
00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:53,937
so the process goes on for ever.

553
00:36:55,279 --> 00:36:57,144
It's a purely theoretical proposal,

554
00:36:57,315 --> 00:37:00,910
build from Linde's earlier
imperfect ideas of inflation

555
00:37:01,452 --> 00:37:04,580
Out of depression had come inspiration.

556
00:37:07,091 --> 00:37:11,551
And since that time
I did not have such a depression,

557
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,226
which in a certain sense
may be unfortunate.

558
00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:25,541
Smolin and Linde's evolutionary theories
have failed to catch on.

559
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:28,974
Most cosmologists, like me,

560
00:37:29,146 --> 00:37:33,549
still want to find a single explanation
of a single universe

561
00:37:36,454 --> 00:37:39,719
It was this ambition to explain
a single universe

562
00:37:39,857 --> 00:37:42,052
which kept hopes for string theory alive,

563
00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:44,951
even when it seemed to be going nowhere.

564
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:50,234
In the last several years,

565
00:37:50,334 --> 00:37:51,562
we've been in the wilderness,

566
00:37:51,669 --> 00:37:55,230
the mathematics has proven too difficult
to solve superstring theory,

567
00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:57,398
the theory is smarter than we are.

568
00:37:58,109 --> 00:38:03,012
The creative engine behind superstring
theory is Ed Witten, at Princeton.

569
00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:03,646
In fact,

570
00:38:03,748 --> 00:38:05,841
Scientific American once said that
Ed Witten is,

571
00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:08,475
guote, the smartest man on earth,

572
00:38:08,586 --> 00:38:13,546
unguote, and if anyone is smart enough
to solve superstring theory,

573
00:38:13,658 --> 00:38:15,922
it's probably going to be Ed Witten.

574
00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:25,792
It seemed pretty clear that
if there was a chance to go way

575
00:38:25,903 --> 00:38:28,531
beyond familiar understanding of physics,

576
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,100
string theory was the most
ambitious prospect.

577
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:34,471
It also was clear then, as it is now,

578
00:38:34,779 --> 00:38:36,940
that it was a very long-term proposition.

579
00:38:38,449 --> 00:38:41,509
Witten turned away from more
concrete aspects of physics,

580
00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:45,645
to tackle the highly
theoretical mathematics of string theory.

581
00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:49,684
I wasn't originally interested in maths,

582
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,794
I was interested in doing physics,

583
00:38:52,730 --> 00:38:56,723
and I remember very well having some
reticence for guite some time

584
00:38:57,001 --> 00:39:00,835
about making the one hundred per cent
commitment,

585
00:39:00,938 --> 00:39:04,135
of really deciding that
was going to be my life.

586
00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:12,645
However bizarre its claims, string theory,

587
00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:14,808
like all scientific ideas,

588
00:39:14,985 --> 00:39:20,855
has to survive a basic test:
Can it describe the world we know?

589
00:39:30,901 --> 00:39:33,563
String theory, as it had developed by
the mid-eighties,

590
00:39:33,738 --> 00:39:37,401
was characterised by the fact that
there were five theories we knew about,

591
00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:41,107
and that raised
the rather curious guestion

592
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:42,907
that was always a little bit embarrassing.

593
00:39:44,115 --> 00:39:46,106
If one of those theories
describes our universe,

594
00:39:46,450 --> 00:39:48,645
then who lives in other four universes?

595
00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:54,286
We've come to understand that
those five theories

596
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:57,884
we've been studying are all
limiting cases of one big picture.

597
00:39:59,697 --> 00:40:02,632
To make an analogy with the blind man
and the elephants,

598
00:40:02,733 --> 00:40:04,530
there is the guy who discovered the trunk

599
00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:06,330
and there's the guy
who discovered the tail,

600
00:40:06,570 --> 00:40:08,231
and there's the guy
who discovered the ear,

601
00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:09,703
and in the past we thought there

602
00:40:09,807 --> 00:40:10,831
were five different things,

603
00:40:10,941 --> 00:40:12,101
now we know there is one elephant,

604
00:40:12,276 --> 00:40:14,301
we still don't understand that
elephant too well.

605
00:40:17,481 --> 00:40:21,713
Witten remains convinced that
string theory can make sense.

606
00:40:22,186 --> 00:40:23,710
But it's lonely work.

607
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:26,985
He lives in a strange, abstract world,

608
00:40:27,324 --> 00:40:31,818
where many dimensions exist rather than
the four we experience on earth.

609
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:36,025
Even other physicists,
used to working in abstract spaces,

610
00:40:36,233 --> 00:40:39,134
find it difficult to share
his convictions.

611
00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:43,573
A lot of people,
even professional physicists,

612
00:40:43,674 --> 00:40:44,868
in my opinion,

613
00:40:45,009 --> 00:40:49,139
don't fully grasp the scope and
richness of the structure involved.

614
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:53,817
People may tend to be too impatient
for guick results in. Some cases.

615
00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:57,754
I think that there are a lot of reasons
to think

616
00:40:57,855 --> 00:41:00,153
that a structure which is so rich

617
00:41:00,291 --> 00:41:03,556
and so physical and
which has been the source,

618
00:41:03,694 --> 00:41:05,787
the continued source of so many
beautiful discoveries

619
00:41:05,963 --> 00:41:07,328
must be on the right track

620
00:41:10,901 --> 00:41:12,562
Like Einstein before him,

621
00:41:12,837 --> 00:41:15,203
Witten's instincts drive him on.

622
00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:19,136
But a solution is painfully elusive.

623
00:41:21,345 --> 00:41:22,835
When you are doing a calculation,

624
00:41:23,047 --> 00:41:25,481
it's usually on some very specific detail,

625
00:41:25,616 --> 00:41:27,811
it's a tiny,
tiny part of the big picture,

626
00:41:27,985 --> 00:41:31,250
and you're hoping that that piece with
shed light on the big picture,

627
00:41:31,422 --> 00:41:33,686
sometimes it does but usually it doesn't.

628
00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,059
Oftentimes you come home
at the end of the day

629
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:41,698
and you know exactly the amount you knew
at the beginning of the day.

630
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,597
But sometimes, you know a little bit more.

631
00:41:47,371 --> 00:41:50,738
I think that this investigation
is the richest thing

632
00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:54,834
that physicists can tackle,
and how far we'll get in our lifetimes,

633
00:41:54,945 --> 00:41:56,071
there's no way to know,

634
00:41:56,180 --> 00:41:58,205
and we might get the answers
we dream of getting,

635
00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:00,047
we might fall a little short,

636
00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:02,679
But I think we can accomplish
more in the future,

637
00:42:02,887 --> 00:42:07,153
and getting as far as
we can is the best we can do.

638
00:42:16,567 --> 00:42:21,197
Twenty years ago,
I said there was a fifty-fifty chance

639
00:42:21,305 --> 00:42:26,675
we would have a complete picture of the
universe in the next twenty years.

640
00:42:27,244 --> 00:42:29,303
That is still my estimate today,

641
00:42:29,446 --> 00:42:31,937
but the twenty years starts now.

642
00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:34,909
It's very hard to build a cons-,

643
00:42:35,019 --> 00:42:37,852
a fully consistent guantum theory
of gravity.

644
00:42:38,522 --> 00:42:41,355
The string. Theorists think they have one,

645
00:42:41,825 --> 00:42:43,349
they may well not be right,

646
00:42:43,460 --> 00:42:45,985
they haven't yet pushed
their theory far enough

647
00:42:46,096 --> 00:42:50,032
so you can compare the conseguences
of string theory to experiment,

648
00:42:50,301 --> 00:42:52,064
and that's what you ultimately need

649
00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:57,772
But perhaps, for the first time,

650
00:42:57,975 --> 00:43:00,876
an experimental group
could be closer to hand.

651
00:43:02,513 --> 00:43:05,812
Neil Turok is getting ready to
journey into the unknown.

652
00:43:07,718 --> 00:43:11,176
Like any explorer,
he needs to know where he's going.

653
00:43:11,622 --> 00:43:15,080
But our current map of the early universe
isn't good enough.

654
00:43:16,927 --> 00:43:20,658
Imagine you were trying to
navigate across a continent,

655
00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:24,790
and you had a map
which only showed features

656
00:43:24,935 --> 00:43:27,165
greater than a hundred miles across,

657
00:43:27,404 --> 00:43:30,430
er, it wouldn't be much use in
finding your way,

658
00:43:30,641 --> 00:43:33,371
er, along a particular route,

659
00:43:33,944 --> 00:43:37,402
but if you had a map that
has a resolution of a mile,

660
00:43:37,548 --> 00:43:39,675
then that becomes much more useful.

661
00:43:40,851 --> 00:43:44,343
In the vast clean rooms of the
European Space Agency,

662
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:48,721
Turok is involved with a project to
make the map of all maps,

663
00:43:48,892 --> 00:43:51,918
with a satellite
called the Planck Explorer.

664
00:43:54,498 --> 00:43:57,023
What we'll do is look out,

665
00:43:57,167 --> 00:44:00,830
map the whole sky
at a very high resolution.

666
00:44:14,385 --> 00:44:18,116
Basically, this is eguivalent to making
a map of the earth

667
00:44:18,222 --> 00:44:21,089
where you show all the rivers
and the mountains

668
00:44:21,191 --> 00:44:23,659
and the valleys in exguisite detail,

669
00:44:24,094 --> 00:44:28,155
and this map will contain a vast
amount of information,

670
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:32,063
it will give us the best picture
we have of the universe

671
00:44:33,404 --> 00:44:37,636
The Planck Explorer will look billions
of years back in time,

672
00:44:38,208 --> 00:44:40,335
to when the very first signs of
the structure

673
00:44:40,444 --> 00:44:42,309
of the universe are visible.

674
00:44:43,213 --> 00:44:48,617
Turok's map is not the universe as it is,
but as it was.

675
00:44:48,819 --> 00:44:51,652
It is a map of the universe
of very early times,

676
00:44:52,256 --> 00:44:53,985
we're not sure guite when,

677
00:44:54,224 --> 00:44:59,127
er, the radiation from the big bang
was emitted from the,

678
00:44:59,229 --> 00:45:01,857
er, plasma in the early universe,

679
00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:04,897
but, er, when we look out and
we see the sky,

680
00:45:05,502 --> 00:45:09,598
we're looking directly at
different patches of hot plasma

681
00:45:09,773 --> 00:45:12,071
and there are going to be
of slightly different temperature,

682
00:45:12,276 --> 00:45:16,508
and so this will be a map of the
temperature variations on the sky.

683
00:45:36,533 --> 00:45:39,661
The hope is that soon we may be
able to see the heat

684
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:43,797
of the early universe in enough detail
to answer our guestions

685
00:45:43,907 --> 00:45:45,772
about how it was formed.

686
00:45:47,778 --> 00:45:49,871
If the data is detailed enough,

687
00:45:50,047 --> 00:45:55,849
it could offer observational evidence
which may clarify how everything began.

688
00:45:58,355 --> 00:45:59,151
I think, er,

689
00:45:59,256 --> 00:46:02,419
people are usually excessively confident
about the theories,

690
00:46:02,626 --> 00:46:06,926
because there has been an absence of data,

691
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:09,863
and that's allowed people to be confident
about the theories,

692
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,562
er, the current theories there are
all based on very clever ideas,

693
00:46:14,738 --> 00:46:17,104
er, and very imaginative ideas,

694
00:46:18,876 --> 00:46:20,673
but what's really good about them is

695
00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:23,975
they do give you
a well-defined framework within

696
00:46:24,081 --> 00:46:26,049
which you can make predictions.

697
00:46:27,384 --> 00:46:30,217
Turok has turned the maths
of theories like superstrings

698
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,550
and inflation into pictures,

699
00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:35,356
which illustrate
the subtle temperature variations

700
00:46:35,459 --> 00:46:37,950
that must exist in the early universe

701
00:46:38,962 --> 00:46:41,157
Each theory predicts a different picture.

702
00:46:41,265 --> 00:46:45,702
The Planck Explorer will see
if any of them could be right.

703
00:46:48,071 --> 00:46:50,096
We're in the
wonderful situation now where,

704
00:46:50,207 --> 00:46:51,970
over the next five or ten years,

705
00:46:52,176 --> 00:46:54,667
the theory is going to be beaten to death,

706
00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:58,542
or theories that we have will be beaten to
death in terms of making predictions,

707
00:46:58,749 --> 00:47:01,843
that will all be settled and we'll,

708
00:47:01,952 --> 00:47:03,010
they'll all,

709
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,954
er, say exactly what
they expect to find in the sky,

710
00:47:07,191 --> 00:47:12,356
and then this satellite will fly and will
map the sky to a very high precision,

711
00:47:12,529 --> 00:47:14,963
and, er, we'll see what happens.

712
00:47:18,302 --> 00:47:20,270
It's a very exciting time to be involved,

713
00:47:20,437 --> 00:47:23,270
it's a unigue opportunity
in science where you,

714
00:47:23,373 --> 00:47:24,067
you're told,

715
00:47:24,174 --> 00:47:26,699
within ten years we're going to
have the data

716
00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:31,470
that will prove or disprove any theory of
how structure formed in the universe,

717
00:47:33,817 --> 00:47:35,148
and you've got ten years,

718
00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:38,483
so we'll see if anyone gets it right.

719
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:46,528
It could be that in a few years
we will have a complete theory

720
00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:49,224
that is confirmed by experiment.

721
00:47:50,234 --> 00:47:52,464
It would be a remarkable achievement,

722
00:47:52,603 --> 00:47:55,663
perhaps the ultimate triumph of science.

723
00:47:57,674 --> 00:48:03,010
But knowing how the universe works is not
enough to tell us why it exists.

724
00:48:05,315 --> 00:48:10,116
To find the answer to that guestion
would be to know the mind of God.

