本片开始于一位来自丹麦的无名男子向我提出的一个建议。 It began when an unknown man from Denmark approached me with a proposition.
这是他在哥本哈根郊区的小公寓。 This is him in his tiny apartment in the outskirts of Copenhagen.
如果这是虚构的， If this was a piece of fiction,
没人相信他将会见 no-one would believe that he would be meeting
朝鲜在非洲的军火商。 with North Korean arms dealers in Africa...
你可以进来，没问题。 You can walk in here no problem.
或者去朝鲜驻瑞典大使馆 ...Or going to the North Korean embassy in Sweden
收集秘密文件。 to pick up secret documents.
若发生了什么事，大使馆对此一无所知。 If something happened, embassy does know nothing about this.
当然 Exactly.
但这不是虚构的。 But this is no fiction.
你将看到的一切都是真实的， Everything you are about to see is real,
并且已经持续了十多年。 and has been going on for more than ten years.
这是他十四岁，在丹麦的某个地方。 This is him aged 14, somewhere in Denmark.
他正在庆祝生日。 He is celebrating his birthday.
来宾中有 Among the guests are children who grew up
在共产主义专政的东德长大的孩子。 in the communist dictatorship East Germany.
多年后，作为一个成年人，他将声称 Many years later, as a grown man, he will claim that
与这些孩子结交并了解到极权主义政权的恐怖 be friending these kids and learning about the horrors
使他决定潜入并揭发 of a totalitarian regime made him decide to infiltrate and expose
最残暴的独裁统治... the most brutal dictatorship of all...
朝鲜。 North Korea.
这是一个很好的解释，如果这是真的，但他选择将自己 It's a nice explanation, if true, but exactly why he chose to place himself
置于致命危险中的确切原因也不重要。 in mortal danger is also beside the point.
这里唯一重要的是他是个鼹鼠（间谍）。 What only matters here is that he is a mole.
鼹鼠：卧底朝鲜
最后，我不得不请一位专家帮我解决问题。 In the end, I had to hire an expert to help me sort it out.
安妮·马琼是情报界颇具争议的人物， Annie Machon is a contentious figure in the intelligence world,
但这与我无关。 but this does not concern me.
我只对她听取特工汇报的技巧感兴趣。 I am only interested in her skills in debriefing agents.
安妮，鼹鼠昨晚来了？ So, Annie, the mole arrived last night?
很快他就准备好了吗？ And soon he's ready for you?
你有什么顾虑吗？ Do you have concerns?
大概我们应该在你见到鼹鼠后再讨论。 Maybe... we should discuss that after you have met the mole.
你好，乌尔里克。我是安妮。 Hi, Ulrich. I'm Annie.
-嗨，安妮。很高兴认识你。-我也很高兴见到你。 - Hi, Annie. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, too.
我以前在英国安全局工作， I used to work for the British Security Service,
又称军情五处，我作为情报部门的一员 otherwise known as MI5, and part of my job as an intelligence officer
是听取特工汇报情况。 was to debrief agents.
所以电影团队让我来听你汇报情况 So the film team has asked me in to debrief you
关于你过去十年的生活。 about your life over the last ten years.
对 Yes.
你能多告诉我一点关于他的情况吗？他的背景？ Can you tell me a little bit more about him? His background?
你知道，如果他要抢劫银行， You know, if he would rob a bank,
你无法描述他。 you would not be able to describe him.
-他融入了-他融入了。 - He blends in. - He blends in.
完美的 Perfect.
那么，你是怎么对朝鲜感兴趣的？ So, how did you get interested in North Korea?
哦，说来话长。 Oh, it's a long story.
这是一个很长的故事，所以我会加快速度。 It is a long story, so I will speed it up.
早在2006年，作为一名来自丹麦的记者，我去了朝鲜 Back in 2006, as a journalist from Denmark, I went to North Korea
拍摄了一部纪录片《红色礼堂》。 and shot a documentary called The Red Chapel.
平壤政权真的很讨厌我的电影， The regime in Pyongyang really hated my film,
因此，我再也回不了朝鲜了。 and because of that, I can never travel back to North Korea.
从西方的角度来看，这部电影有它的亮点， Seen from a western point of view, the film has its moments,
但它没有提供确凿的证据， but it does not offer up the smoking gun,
证明朝鲜是一个 the irrefutable proof that North Korea is an evil
邪恶和犯罪的企业。 and criminal enterprise.
从那以后，我一直在努力证明这些观点， Ever since, I have been on a quest to prove these points,
却被永远禁止进入那片秘境。 yet being forever banned from the Chamber of Secrets.
但回到丹麦，我更喜欢称之为鼹鼠的人看到了我的电影， But back in Denmark, the man who I prefer to call the mole saw my film,
不知怎么的，这让他产生了一个想法 and somehow it gave him the idea that he could travel
代替我去朝鲜。 to North Korea in my place.
为什么不呢？去吧，然后... Why not? Just go, and...
然后我... Then I...
…给麦斯写了封电子邮件。 ...wrote an e-mail to Mads.
大约十年前，他突然写信问 Approximately ten years ago, out of nowhere, he wrote and asked
如果我有兴趣拍一部关于他的电影 if I would be interested in doing a film about him
渗入丹麦-朝鲜友好协会。 infiltrating the Danish North Korean Friendship Association.
哥本哈根 2011 丹麦
我是说，发生了什么？ So-- I mean, what happened?
你能告诉我你在这件事上采取的最初步骤吗， Can you talk me through exactly the first steps you took in this,
以及你正在经历的那种思考过程？ and the sort of thought process you were going through?
-你是说朝鲜友谊…？-对 - You mean with the Korean Friendship...? - Yes.
我找到了丹麦友谊协会和主席安德斯·克里斯滕森。 I found the Danish Friendship Association, and the chairman, Anders Kristensen.
三周后，他邀请我参加第一次公开会议。 He invited me to the first public meeting three weeks later.
我上来时他是房间里唯一的人- And he was the only person in the room when I came up, -
-试图竖起朝鲜国旗。 - trying to put up a North Korean flag.
我像往常一样去打招呼，握手。 And I went like I normally do, go and say hello, shake hands.
我有这样一个…你知道，非常... I had such a... You know, very...
这甚至不是握手，很像是手滑开了。 It was not even a handshake, it was very like the hands slipped away.
好吧，这是男人还是...？ OK, is this a man or...?
-水母？-对 - A jellyfish? - Yes.
他很快就告诉人们这是一位新成员。 He was quite fast to tell people that this is a new member.
朝鲜于当地时间昨天11时57分进行了第三次核试验。 North Korea yesterday at 11:57 local time carried out their third nuclear bomb test.
爆炸威力明显大于- The blast was significantly more powerful than -
-2006年和2009年的测试。 - the previous tests from 2006 and 2009.
我告诉他，如果它会演变成某种东西，可能会很有趣 I told him it could be of interest if it would evolve to something
受到国际瞩目， of international importance,
因为丹麦-朝鲜友好协会本身 because the Danish North Korean Friendship Association in itself
是一群相当令人沮丧的人。 is a fairly depressing group of people.
他说：“如果有趣，请随时通知我。” He said, "Please keep me posted if it's interesting,"
我想，“好的。” and I was like, "Okay."
我还告诉他，“我将不会给你任何钱，” I also told him, "I will never be able to pay you any money,"
所以这对他来说并不重要， so that is not of importance for him,
然后他继续前进。 and then he just kept on going.
鼹鼠钻进兔子洞，发现了一个由丹麦老人组成的奇异世界 The mole went down the rabbit hole and discovered a bizarre world
他们是朝鲜真正的朋友。 of Danish senior citizens who are true friends of North Korea.
鼹鼠在森严的等级制度中缓慢而坚定地前进 Slowly but surely, the mole advanced in the hierarchy
成为董事会成员， and became a member of the board,
在主席安德斯·克里斯滕森手下工作， working under chairman Anders Kristensen,
一个顽固的共产党员。 a die-hard communist.
在这里，你可以看到他回到鼎盛时期， Here you have him back in his heyday, meeting with
与朝鲜的缔造者，永远的主席金日成， the founder of North Korea, Eternal President Kim Il-sung,
现任统治者金正恩的祖父。 grandfather of the current ruler, Kim Jong-un.
你现在可以挂了。 You can hang it up now.
鼹鼠一直在拍摄，借口是 All the time, the mole was filming, the excuse being that he was
我是董事会骄傲的一员，在这里我一直在战斗
为了保卫了不起的朝鲜
但我们需要意识到，有些人今天是我们的朋友和同志
明天就是我们最大的敌人
将有五队间谍。我们真的需要当心这些。
他在为YouTube制作关于他作为董事会成员工作的影片。 making movies for YouTube about his work as a board member.
那么，当你成为会员后，事情进展如何， So, how did things progress for you once you were a member,
在董事会上？ and on the board?
当然，我最大的愿望是访问朝鲜- Well, my biggest wish was to visit North Korea, of course, -
-要到那里，你需要成为协会的成员。 - and to come there, you need to be a part of an Association.
正在拍摄的乌尔里克是董事会成员。 Ulrich, who is filming, is a member of the board.
他正在拍摄一部关于协会工作的影片。 He is making a film about the association's work.
他还将参加我们的朝鲜之行，我们将在大约一周后前往朝鲜。 He will also join our trip to Korea, where we will travel in about one week.
平壤 2012 朝鲜
当我们到达时，我们在那里合影。 When we arrive, we take a group picture there.
将会登报。 For the newspaper.
-清楚吗？-是 啊 - Is it clear? - Yeah.
好啊 Ok.
鼹鼠去了朝鲜， The mole went to North Korea,
朝鲜人喜欢上了他。 and the North Koreans took a liking to him.
他在朝鲜的主要联系人是一个叫姜的人， His main contact person in North Korea was a man named Kang,
他在文化事务部工作。 who works for the Ministry of Cultural Affairs.
-一切都在控制之中？-是的，是的。 - Everything under control? - Yeah, yeah.
在朝鲜，一切都在掌控之中。 Always in Korea, everything is in control.
姜是这个关于欺骗和阴谋的故事中的关键人物。 Kang is a key person in this tale of deceit and intrigue.
我们信任你，我们真的把你们当成朋友。 We trust you and we really treat you as friends.
-是的。-但是 - Yes. - But...
你们必须明白有些地方是敏感的... You have to understand that there are places which are sensitive...
也许间谍们对这种地方感兴趣。 And maybe the spies are interested in this kind of places.
这些是军事场所。 These are military places.
所以所有的朝鲜人都非常警觉... So all the Korean people are very alert...
你好，你好... Hello, hello...
你好...你好...很高兴见到你。 Hello... Hi... Nice meeting you.
鼹鼠在朝鲜所到之处，他都在拍摄。 Everywhere he went in North Korea, the mole was filming.
当然，他在领取奖牌时也带了相机， Of course, he also brought his camera when he was awarded a medal,
嘉奖他为这个政权所做的工作。 recognising his work for the regime.
-好的，恭喜你。-非常感谢。 - Okay, congratulations. - Thank you.
那么，事情是什么时候真正开始变化的？ So when did things really start to move?
2012年我在朝鲜时- When I was in North Korea in 2012, -
-我遇到了一个名叫亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯的西班牙人。 - I met a Spanish person named Alejandro Cao de Benos.
你能确认这是他的照片吗？ Could you confirm that this is a photograph of him?
-就是他。-是啊 - That's him. - Yeah?
他是朝鲜友好协会（KFA）的会长。 He's the president of the Korean Friendship Association — KFA.
据他自己说，全世界有几十万会员。 And according to himself there are hundreds of thousands of members around the world.
在平壤政权的朋友中， Amongst the friends of the regime in Pyongyang,
亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯等级最高。 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the biggest friend.
与小团体相比 Compared to a small group
例如丹麦-朝鲜友好协会， such as the Danish North Korean Friendship Association,
朝鲜友好协会是国际协会 the Korean Friendship Association is the international lodge
对于那些认为朝鲜是人间天堂的人来说。 for people who consider North Korea to be heaven on Earth.
亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯是 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the founder
朝鲜友好协会的创始人 of the Korean Friendship Association
想和平壤做生意吗？给朝鲜在西班牙的代理人打电话
"我是唯一能联系的人。”
全世界都知道他是朝鲜的守门人。 and is known around the world as the gatekeeper of North Korea.
因此，亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯是我（导演）的导游和入场券 As such, Alejandro Cao de Benos was my tour guide and access ticket
当我2006年去朝鲜时。 when I travelled to North Korea back in 2006.
在这里，我们正在为一家朝鲜报社拍照。 Here, we are posing for a North Korean newspaper.
和他在一起，我发现很难理解为什么亚历杭德罗， Spending time with him, I found it hard to understand why Alejandro,
他出生在西班牙，生活在西班牙， who was born in Spain and lives in Spain,
选择了为朝鲜当啦啦队的生活。 has chosen a life as a cheerleader for North Korea.
根据联合国的说法，朝鲜饥饿、虐待 According to the UN, North Korea starves, abuses
每天杀害本国公民， and kills its own citizens on a daily basis,
但亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯认为这一切都是假新闻。 but Alejandro Cao de Benos considers all that to be fake news.
你知道联合国和大赦国际的报告很强硬吗？ You are aware of the reports from the UN and Amnesty International, which are very tough?
是的，因为它们被用作宣传工具。 Yes, because they are being used as propaganda tools.
我还发现他最喜欢的食物是法式糕点和糖果， I also discovered that his preferred foods are French pastry and candies,
我想这是超级恶棍的完美饮食。 which is, I guess, the perfect diet for a supervillain.
你认为亚历杭德罗危险吗？ Do you think Alejandro's dangerous?
是的，我知道。特别是当他在朝鲜的时候。 Yes, I do. Especially when he is in North Korea.
因为他有能力对自己不喜欢的事情做出反应。 Because he has the power to react to things he doesn't like.
他是自己宇宙中的小独裁者。 He is a small dictator in his own universe.
“给世界进步人民的法案。” "A bill to the progressive peoples of the World."
亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯- Alejandro Cao de Benos, -
-我们能说你是唯一一个随意进入朝鲜的西方人吗？ - can we say that you are the only Westerner who easily enters North Korea?
世界上唯一代表朝鲜的西方人？ And who represents North Korea? The only Westerner in the world?
是的，第一个也是唯一一个西方人。 Yes the first and only Westerner.
你是西班牙贵族 You're a Spanish aristocrat
代表朝鲜政权。这对你有什么好处？ representing the North Korean regime. What's in it for you?
这是一个长达三十年的故事，但尽管我有贵族血统- Well, it's a long story of 30 years, but although I come from an aristocratic family, -
-但我只是一个工人的儿子。所以我想贡献- - I'm just the son of a worker. So I wanted to contribute -
-建设社会主义国家。 - to the construction of a socialist country.
我创建了朝鲜友好协会- I created the Korean Friendship Association, so I could facilitate -
-这个组织是朝鲜与世界其他国家之间的桥梁。 - the meeting and the bridge between North Korea and the rest of the countries in the world.
晚上好，曹·德·贝诺斯先生。 Good evening, Mr. Cao de Benos.
朝鲜只是想保证自己的生存和未来。 North Korea just wants to guarantee its survival and future.
实现这一目标的唯一途径是发展核防御。 The only way to do that is developing a nuclear defense.
如果朝鲜消失，世界也不复存在。 There will be no world without Korea.
如果朝鲜受到美国的核攻击- If North Korea is attacked nuclearly by the United States, -
-正如我们所知，世界将终结。 - the world will end as we know it.
金日成同志万岁！ Hail comrade Kim Il-sung!
所以你在平壤见到他，然后你回到欧洲， So you meet him in Pyongyang, and then you go back to Europe,
-然后你的第二次会面是在你去西班牙的时候。-是啊 - and then your second meeting is when you go to Spain. - Yeah.
巴塞罗纳 2013 西班牙
你好 Hello.
我们在巴塞罗那，阿斯托里亚酒店前- We are here in Barcelona, in front of Hotel Astoria, -
-我们刚刚和同事乌尔里克进行了一次精彩的会面- - and we just had a wonderful meeting with our colleague Ulrich, -
-讨论感兴趣的问题。 - discussing matters of interest.
你能给我讲讲那次会议吗？ Can you tell me a little bit about that meeting?
那是在巴塞罗那郊区的一家小旅馆里- It was in a small hotel in the outskirts of Barcelona, -
-我们聊了两三个小时... - and we talked like two or three hours...
……当然有很多关于朝鲜的事，还有... ...of course a lot about North Korea, and...
我刚刚和西班牙同志亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯进行了一次很好的会面。 I just had a great meeting with the Spanish comrade, Alejandro Cao de Benos.
然后他开始告诉我安德斯的事。 Then he starts telling me about Anders.
他对安德斯多年来的所作所为了如指掌。 He is well informed about what Anders has done throughout the years.
很明显，他没有进化，也没有做出任何新的努力。 It is clear that he does not evolve, nor does he bring forth any new efforts.
我同意他的主张。 I agree with his assertion.
亚历杭德罗想要你做什么？ So what did Alejandro want from you?
然后他想让我成为“官方代表”- He then wanted me to be the "official delegate" -
-在丹麦的KFA。 - at the KFA in Denmark.
这就是为什么我悄悄地创办了自己的丹麦KFA。 That is why I quietly start my own KFA Denmark.
我当然是由亚历杭德罗任命的。 Where I of course am appointed by Alejandro.
我将是他最亲近的人之一。 I will be one of his closest.
在国际上，他希望我建立一些联系。 Also internationally, he wants me to establish some contacts.
科隆 2013 德国
于是鼹鼠开始在朝鲜友好协会运作 And so the mole began channelling his way through
希望找到这个 the Korean Friendship Association, hoping to find the secrets
全球平壤之友俱乐部的秘密。 of this global club for friends of Pyongyang.
我们的最高指挥官金正恩万岁。 Long live our Supreme Commander Kim Jong-un.
最后一个演讲：乌尔里克·拉森。 The last speech: Ulrich Larsen.
乌尔里克同志，我想你代表丹麦KFA发表演讲？ Comrade Ulrich, I think you have a speech on behalf of KFA Denmark?
我叫乌尔里克·拉森，是KFA在丹麦的新分支机构负责人。 My name is Ulrich Larsen, and I'm the new branch of KFA in Denmark.
我真的很高兴来到这里并在这个年会上发言。 And I'm really happy to be here and to speak at this annual meeting.
乔纳斯（摄像），你能在我们打招呼的时候给我们拍电影吗？Jonas, can you film us here, while we say hi?
-是的，很好。-只是不要遮挡... - Yes, fine. - Just don't cover...
-全身。-不要遮挡肖像。 - Full body. - Don't cover the portraits.
亚历杭德罗，很高兴再次见到你。很高兴来到这里。一直如此，你知道。 Alejandro, good to see you again. Very pleased to be here. Always, you know.
在我的建议下，鼹鼠配备了一个专业的摄影师 Advised by me, the mole had a professional cameraman
在丹麦KFA注册成为他的私人助理。 enrolled in KFA Denmark as his personal assistant.
亚历杭德罗知道你生活中的个人方面吗？ Is Alejandro aware of the personal aspects of your life?
是啊 Yeah.
我认为这也是他任用我的原因之一- And I think that's one of the reasons he wants me, too; -
-因为他认为我有很多时间在斯堪的纳维亚半岛扮演 朝鲜人。 - because he thinks I have a lot of time to be the North Korean man in Scandinavia.
在他的现实生活中，鼹鼠是一位退休厨师 A lot of time because, in his real life, the mole is a retired chef
靠政府的福利补贴生活 who lives on welfare subsidies from the government
因为某种慢性病 because of some sort of chronic disease
他无法工作。 which prevents him from working.
他已婚，有孩子，住在 He is married with children and resides in the suburbs
哥本哈根郊区，过着看似正常的生活。 of Copenhagen, living a seemingly normal life.
因此，他是你想要的最好的间谍。 As such, he is the best mole you could ever want.
布鲁塞尔 2014 比利时
这是一场与丹麦媒体的长期斗争- It's a long fight against the Danish media; -
-当他们有机会开动帝国主义宣传机器... - whenever they have the chance to print imperialistic propaganda...
事实上，KFA中的许多人都失业了。 Actually, many of the persons in the KFA are unemployed.
……领导人金正日总是虑无不周... ...Leader Kim Jong-Il always thought the best and...
永远的金日成主席... The Eternal President Kim Il-sung...
……金正日担任朝鲜人民军最高司令官... ...Kim Jong-il as the Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army...
……领导人金日成不得不... ...Leader Kim Il-sung had to...
我想他们发现了他的独特之处- I think they find something unique with him, -
-因为他让他们感到受欢迎。 - because he makes them feel welcome.
-每个人都热爱一项事业。-确切地 - Everyone loves a cause. - Exactly.
让我们更加骄傲，更加坚强- Let us become more proud and grow more strong, -
-直到我们取得最终胜利！非常感谢。 - until we achieve the Final Victory! Thank you!
洪鹤邦 朝鲜驻英国大使
我参加了欧洲各地KFA的年度会议。 I participated in annual meetings in the KFA around Europe.
塔拉戈纳 2015 西班牙
我给我们在丹麦的官方代表乌尔里克·拉森打电话。 I'm calling Ulrich Larsen, our official delegate in Denmark.
乌尔里克，请出示你的奖牌。 Ulrich, please show your medal.
两年后，我成为了斯堪的纳维亚半岛的KFA代表。 Then, two years after, I was the KFA delegate of Scandinavia.
所以他给了我四个国家。 So he gave me four countries.
这是一个很快的飞跃。 That's quite a quick leap up.
-是的，进展很快。 - It went quite fast, yes.
那你的职责是什么？ So what were your responsibilities in that?
他希望我应对媒体，如果他们... He of course wanted me to react to the media, if they...
你知道，所有的谎言，在…用朝鲜人的眼睛看。 You know, all the lies, in... Seen with North Korean eyes.
这是来自哥本哈根的乌尔里克。这是他不得不说的。 This is Ulrich out of Copenhagen. Here's what he had to say.
在朝鲜，你有很多你从未见过的好东西。 In North Korea, you have many good things that you never see.
我一个月前刚回来，看到- I just came back here a month ago, and I was surprised to see -
-朝鲜人的未来是多么美好。 - how bright the future looks for the North Koreans.
安德烈，他真的很喜欢这个主题 So, Andre, he's really picking up on that theme
德莫特对朝鲜的诽谤。 that Dermot had about a smear against North Korea.
乔纳斯，他正在剪辑小视频，我们将在Facebook上发布，大家可以分享。 Jonas he is making small video clips, and we'll put up one on Facebook which you all can share.
你知道他有没有告诉他的妻子他在做什么吗？ Do you happen to know if he's told his wife what he was doing?
我不这么认为。 I don't think so.
当你在朝鲜时- When you are in North Korea, -
-人们闻起来很难闻。 - people smell bad.
这方面还行，但他们的香水相当... Not bad in that way, but their perfumes are rather...
……他们闻到很多酒味。 ...they smell a lot of alcohol.
我很幸运从我父亲那里得到了一个。 And I was lucky to get one of these from my father.
所以当我和他们一起外出时- So I made it into a tradition, when I'm out with them, -
-在这种情况下- - in this context, -
-我在开会前喷一点，所以气味让我感觉- - I spray myself before the meetings, so the smell gives me some sort of -
-表明我现在在朝鲜的旗帜下。 - signal that I'm now under North Korea's banner.
当你披着那股奇怪的气味回家时，你妻子说了什么？ What did your wife say when you went home smelling of that strange scent?
她被讲述了另一个故事。 She is told another story.
我不能告诉她真相，因为那样她就不让我走了。 I couldn't tell her the truth, because then she wouldn't let me go.
-我是萨莎。-你好 - It's Sasha. - Hi.
-嗨。-你好 - Hi. - Hi.
-怎么了？-我们今天干到现在。 - What's up? - We are done for today.
我累了，会议开了一整天- I'm tired, it's been a long day of meetings -
-有很多有趣的事儿。 - with a lot of funny information.
是的，好的。 Yeah, OK.
孩子们开心吗？ The kids are happy?
是的，我们今天去过蒂沃利花园。 Yes, we have been to Tivoli Gardens today.
可以 Okay.
他们玩得很开心。 They were having a good time.
好的 Good.
-是的，是的。-我稍后再给你打电话。 - Yes, yes. - I'll call you later.
明天和你谈谈？ Talk to you tomorrow?
-好的。-没关系。 - Okay. - That's fine.
-再见。-再见 - Goodbye. - Bye.
为什么亚历杭德罗喜欢鼹鼠？他在鼹鼠身上看到了什么？ Why does Alejandro like the mole? What does he see in the mole?
他希望我找到愿意在朝鲜投资的人。 He wants me to find people who would like to invest money in North Korea.
亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯开始向鼹鼠施压。 Alejandro Cao de Benos begins putting pressure on the mole.
贝诺斯想让他寻找愿意投资的商人 He wants him to source for businessmen who will invest
在朝鲜。 in North Korea.
所以，真正的主干是筹集业务和投资。 So the main part, really, is raising business and investment.
2013年在丹麦拍摄的一次汇报中， In a debriefing filmed in Denmark back in 2013,
鼹鼠已经在谈论KFA主席亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯 the mole was already talking about KFA president Alejandro Cao de Benos
希望他找到投资者。 wanting him to find investors.
他开始谈论在朝鲜的三个投资项目。 He started talking about three investment projects in North Korea.
-什么类型？-他没有说。 - What kind? - He doesn't say.
他正在寻找五至一百万欧元的资金。 He's looking for capital from 50.000 to 1 million Euro.
但在朝鲜投资是一件棘手的事 But investing in North Korea is tricky business
因为联合国的严厉制裁 because of the tough UN sanctions
针对资金匮乏的政权。 levelled against the cash-starved regime.
新的制裁措施包括禁止朝鲜出口商品， The new sanctions include a ban on exports of
如机械和电气设备。 North Korean goods such as machinery and electrical equipment.
因为没有一个头脑正常的人会向朝鲜扔钱， Since no-one in their right mind would throw money at North Korea,
我决定编造一个假投资者，好让鼹鼠弄清 I decided to invent a fake investor in order for the mole to find out
亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯到底在想什么。 what exactly Alejandro Cao de Benos had in mind.
我忘了提还有一个人参与了这件事。 I forgot to mention there is another person involved in this.
那个人是詹姆斯先生。 That person is Mr. James.
他的真名是吉姆， His real name is Jim,
他被我选中扮演詹姆斯先生， and he was chosen by me to perform the role as Mr. James,
一个具有国际神秘感的人。 a man of international mystery.
在现实生活中，吉姆是法国外籍军团的前成员 In real life, Jim is a former member of the French Foreign Legion
他后来在哥本哈根成为了一名喷射可卡因贩卖者。 who later went on to become a jet-set cocaine pusher in Copenhagen.
最终，他被抓，并在狱中服刑八年， In the end, he was caught and served eight years in jail,
现在以合法商人的身份工作和生活。 and now works and lives as a legitimate businessman.
在我看来，他是为极端角色扮演量身定做的。 In my mind, he was tailor-made for extreme role-playing.
所以我让鼹鼠邀请亚历杭德罗来挪威奥斯陆 So I had the mole invite Alejandro to come to Oslo in Norway
奥斯陆 2016 挪威
为了与梦中人见面， for meeting with the man of his dreams,
詹姆斯先生，一位衣冠楚楚的斯堪的纳维亚石油亿万富翁。 Mr. James, a dapper Scandinavian oil billionaire.
那你是怎么操作的？ So how did you set it up?
那时，我已经认识詹姆斯五个小时了。 At that moment, I had known James for five hours.
我早上在机场遇到了他，我们... I met him in the airport in the morning, and we...
我们甚至没有在飞机上坐在一起。 We didn't even sit together in the plane.
计划是我应该把亚历杭德罗介绍给詹姆斯- The plan was that I should introduce Alejandro to James, -
-然后把詹姆斯介绍给亚历杭德罗。 - and James to Alejandro.
-然后就坐下来看？-没错。 - And then just sit back and watch? - Yes, exactly.
对朝鲜进行何种投资 What kind of investments into North Korea
亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯会长会为詹姆斯先生出价吗？ would President Alejandro Cao de Benos have on offer for Mr. James?
走 Go.
呼！我希望一切顺利。 Whew! I hope it goes well.
-你习惯了，我不习惯。-当然 - You're used to it, I'm not. - Of course.
呼！我很紧张。 Whew! I'm nervous.
-两秒钟，进来！-嗨，谢谢。 - Two seconds, come in! - Hi, thanks.
我只需要拿这个。 I just need to take this.
-请坐。-好的，谢谢。 - Sit. - OK. Thank you.
很抱歉。好的。很高兴见到你。 Sorry for that. OK. A pleasure to meet you.
谢谢你来。 Thank you for coming.
这是亚历杭德罗，KFA会长。 This is Alejandro, the President of KFA.
我是朝鲜民主主义人民共和国政府的特别领导人- I'm a special lead of the Government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, -
-负责国际关系 -非常感谢你。 - in charge of international relations. - Thank you very much.
我很想把我的名片给你，但我的行李箱还在吉隆坡... I would have loved to give you my card, but my suitcase is still in Kuala Lumpur...
-但我们会邮寄给你。-没问题。 - But we will send it to you by mail. - No problem.
抱歉，只是想打断一下， Sorry, just to interrupt,
但你为詹姆斯写了什么样的封面故事？ but what sort of cover story had you developed for James?
我的意思是，亚历杭德罗大概会做一些检查 I mean, Alejandro presumably would have done some checking
对詹姆斯的背景。 on the background of James.
我想他真的只是想做成买卖，但他不是... I think he really just wanted things to happen, and he wasn't...
他想给朝鲜人一些东西- He was thinking about having something for the Koreans, -
-使他可以在朝鲜达到更高的水平。 - so he could reach an even higher level in North Korea.
所以他不需要知道这位石油亿万富翁的名字？ So he didn't need to know the name of this oil billionaire?
-不，我刚告诉他他的名字叫詹姆斯。-呵呵！ - No, I just told him his name was James. - Huh!
我为一个投资家族工作。 I work for an investment family.
到目前为止，我们的投资一直在石油、天然气、 Until now, our investments have been in oil, gas,
-武器、金属、药品、 - weapons, metal, pharmaceuticals,
-但我们的最低投资是五千万欧元... - but our minimum investment is fifty million Euros...
-五个零？-是的，五个零。 - Five-zero? - Yes, five-zero.
…因为少于这些，利润就不多了。 ...because otherwise, the revenue is not interesting.
我和金正恩元帅有联系， I have contacts up to Marshall Kim Jong-un,
-因此，如果有必要，我可以直接向最高权力机构汇报- - so, if necessary, I can report directly to the maximal authority -
-我们伟大的领导人金正恩——在这个国家。 - to our Great Leader Kim Jong-un - in the country.
你可能知道，我们受到联合国非常严厉的制裁- We are under very heavy sanctions, as you may know, from the United Nations, -
-特别是由美国执行的。 - especially enforced by the United States.
所以我们有一个平行的方法来做事情。 So we have a parallel way to do things.
我们在中国、东南亚、马来西亚和其他国家设有公司- We have companies in China, Southeast Asia, Malaysia and other countries, -
-用于进行各种交易。 - for making all kinds of transactions.
因此，他们在联合国，在电视前遵守制裁，但实际上，他们做相反的事。 So they follow sanctions in the UN, in front of the TV, but in reality, they just look the other way.
他有没有讨论过他要找什么类型的业务？ Did he discuss what types of business he would be looking for?
是 啊，但这并不需要- Yeah. And it didn't take -
-在亚历杭德罗开始谈论这件事之前的几分钟- - many minutes before Alejandro started talking about that -
-他们可以在朝鲜生产任何东西- - they could produce anything in North Korea, -
-他喜欢称之为朝鲜民主主义人民共和国。 - which he likes to call the DPR of Korea, or DPRK.
我们的优势是朝鲜是世界上唯一的国家- Our advantage is that the DPRK is the only country in the world -
-我们不需要遵守任何人的任何规则。 - where we don't need to follow any rules from anyone.
无论你在朝鲜做什么，都与外界无关。 Whatever you do in DPRK, remains in DPRK.
没有人可以触摸你的账户，你的资产... Nobody can touch your accounts, your assets...
即使你被国际刑警组织跟踪，我们甚至不是国际刑警组织的成员。 Even if you are followed by Interpol, we are not even members of Interpol.
所以我们可以做其他国家做不到的事情。 So we can do things that no other country can do.
我们正在开发药物行业的产品- We are developing things in the pharmaceutical industry -
-这在世界上任何其他国家都是禁止的。 - which are forbidden in any other country in the world.
加拿大的一家制药公司要求我... A pharmaceutical company in Canada requested me...
…我们在朝鲜生产一些东西。 ...that we produce something in DPRK.
但这种“东西”与甲基苯丙胺基本相同。 But this "something" is basically the same as methamphetamine.
这是供给毒品市场的甲基苯丙胺。 It's methamphetamine, for the drug market.
所以，这些问题... So, the issues that...
他们把合成路线发给了我，我向我们的首都核实了一下- They sent me the formula, and I checked with our capital, -
-当然，我们有足够的知识来实现这一点。 - and of course we have all the knowledge to produce even that.
武器实际上是我们的主要... Weapons is actually our main...
但目前武器问题是一个非常复杂的问题。 But the problem with weapons at the moment is a very complicated subject.
但是，武器！我们可以建造潜艇工厂，坦克工厂... But, weapons! We can build submarine factories, tank factories...
从坦克的第一个螺丝到最后一个螺丝都是朝鲜制造的。 From the first screw of the tank to the last one is made in DPRK.
导弹。全部由朝鲜制造。我们向伊朗出售导弹。 Missiles. All made in DPRK. We sell our missiles to Iran.
伊朗没有我们的技术。 Iran doesn't have our technology.
伊朗只有中程导弹。 Iran only has medium-range missiles.
我们有洲际弹道导弹，可以到达世界任何地方。所以 We have intercontinental ballistic missiles that can reach any part of the world. So...
好的，好的。我们肯定要……我只是在做笔记。 OK, OK. That one we definitely have to... I'm just taking notes.
我可以为你与我们任何一家国有公司直接接触提供方便- I can facilitate you direct contacts with any kind of our state companies, -
-或朝鲜任何部门或部委。 - or any department or ministry in the country.
这对我来说没问题。任何时候，我都可以签发签证。 This is no problem for me. Anytime, I can issue the visas.
我可以与我们所有的部长一起在各个层面做好准备。 I can prepare at all levels, with all our ministers.
所以，通过我，你现在与这个国家有了直接联系。 So, through me, you are now in direct contact with the country.
在奥斯陆会见亚历杭德罗·曹德贝诺斯会长 Meeting with President Alejandro Cao de Benos in Oslo
使我对朝鲜友好协会有了全新的看法 gave a whole new perspective on the Korean Friendship Association
因为，从官方来看，KFA是一个和平组织 because, officially, the KFA is a peaceful organisation
致力于促进朝鲜文化、历史和价值观 which works to promote North Korean culture, history and values
通过其在三十多个不同国家的成员... through its members in more than 30 different countries...
包括所有斯堪的纳维亚国家的官方代表， including the official delegate for all of Scandinavia,
鼹鼠。 the mole.
KFA真的参与其中了吗 Was the KFA really being used
作为处理朝鲜武器和毒品的前线， as a front for dealing with weapons and drugs from North Korea,
把亚历杭德罗当成蜘蛛网？ with Alejandro as the spider in the web?
或者是亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯瞄准了 Or was Alejandro Cao de Benos playing us in order to get to
詹姆斯先生的腰包？ the deep pockets of Mr. James?
亚历杭德罗到底是谁？ And who was Alejandro really?
是一个滑稽的吹牛家，扮演一个有用的白痴 Simply a buffoonish braggart acting as a useful idiot
为了平壤政权？ for the regime in Pyongyang?
还是一个手眼通天和老练的 Or was he a highly connected and sophisticated
国际罪犯？ international criminal?
终于，鼹鼠找到了他的真正使命和目的。 At last, the mole had found his real mission and true purpose.
跟随亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯 Follow the lead of Alejandro Cao de Benos
看看他会把我们带到哪里。 and see where it takes us.
那么，这次会议之后发生了什么？ So, what happened after this meeting?
亚历杭德罗回到西班牙后被捕。 When Alejandro came back to Spain, he was arrested.
-好吗？-武器交易。 - OK? - For arms dealing.
这就是亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯在法庭前对我们的问题的反应。 This is how Alejandro Cao de Benos reacted to our questions in front of the courthouse.
他昨天在塔拉戈纳警方打击武器贩运的行动中被捕。 He was arrested yesterday in Tarragona in a police operation against arms trafficking.
我不与媒体对话。 I don't talk to the media.
为什么？ Why?
因为你是一群诽谤者。 Because you're a bunch of slanderers.
这是假的！完全是假的！ This is fake! Totally fake!
你是一群诽谤者！这完全是假的！ You're a bunch of slanderers! This is totally fake!
都柏林 2014 爱尔兰
有史以来第一次，KFA勇敢的战士们 For the first time ever, the brave soldiers of the KFA
在没有会长的情况下召开年会。 would have their annual meeting without their president.
这是鼹鼠晋升的绝佳机会。 A perfect chance for the mole to rise in the ranks.
我欢迎大家参加2016年国际KFA大会。 I'd like to welcome you all to the 2016 International KFA Conference.
多年来，我们的组织遭到反动派的猛烈攻击。 Over the years, our organization has been viciously attacked by reactionaries.
今年最严重的袭击是针对我们的会长亚历杭德罗。 This year's worst attack is towards our president, Alejandro.
西班牙法西斯当局不让他离开这个国家- The Spanish fascist authorities are not letting him leave the country, -
-限制其行动自由，以及- - restricting his freedom of movement, and -
-指控他犯了一项他没有犯的罪行。 - accusing him of a crime he had not committed.
也许有一天，他们会明白我们是对的，他们是错的。 Maybe one day, they will understand that we are right, and that they are wrong.
但在那之前，同志们，继续做好我们的事业。 But until then, keep on with the good job, comrades.
非常感谢。 Thank you.
如果不是亚历杭德罗同志，我今天不会站在这里。 If it was not for comrade Alejandro, I would not be standing here today.
我依靠他不断地相信我，支持我，指导我。 I count on him for constantly believing in me, supporting me and guiding me.
在未来，我预见到更多的西方人，就像我一样- In the future, I foresee more people of the West, just like me, -
-会意识到他们生活在一个破碎而邪恶的系统中。 - will realize that they live inside a broken and evil system.
所以他们会睁开眼睛，看到我所看到的- And so they will open their eyes, and see what I see, -
-一个可以实现的梦想。 - a dream which can come true.
我们的最高将军金正恩万岁！ Long live our Supreme General Kim Jong-un!
统一朝鲜！非常感谢你。 Korea is one! Thank you very much.
统一朝鲜！ Korea is one!
-喂？-你好，亚历杭德罗，我是乌尔里克。 - Hello? - Hello, Alejandro, it's Ulrich.
无论我能做什么来帮助你和KFA，只要告诉我，我就会在那里。 Whatever I can do to help you and KFA, just let me know, and I'll be there.
非常感谢。我信任你。 Thank you. I trust you.
你所有的工作和活动。 All your work and your activities.
当然，不仅是我，我在平壤的战友们- Not only me, of course, my comrades in Pyongyang, -
-他们知道我们没有很多像你这样亲密的朋友。 - they know we don't have many very close friends like you.
只有少数人是这个国家真正的密友。 There are only a few which are really close friends of the country.
我也有同感。我爱KFA的所有人。 I feel the same. I love you all in the KFA.
马德里 2016 西班牙
接下来，鼹鼠和詹姆斯先生去了西班牙的马德里 Next, the mole and Mr. James went to Madrid in Spain
与亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯会面。 to meet with Alejandro Cao de Benos.
通过我，詹姆斯先生准备好了朝鲜武器的订单 Through me, Mr. James had an order ready for North Korean weapons
以及甲基苯丙胺。 as well as methamphetamine.
朝鲜友好协会会长 Would the president of the Korean Friendship Association
是否会同意进行贸易， be open for business,
现在他因贩卖武器而被调查。 now that he was being investigated for arms trafficking.
好的，很好 OK, good
乌尔里克同志！ Comrade Ulrich!
我能看见你。你好 I can see you. Hello!
所以，亚历杭德罗完全信任詹姆斯，根据你的引荐？ So, Alejandro took James entirely on trust, on your recommendation?
我们需要写一个我如何认识詹姆斯的故事。 We needed to put up a story of how I know James.
那是什么故事？ And what was that story?
我受过厨师的教育，而且... I'm educated as a chef, and...
……我一直在为詹姆斯的朋友做饭。 ...I've been making food for some people where James was attending.
他只是问我能不能给他做饭，因为他有很多派对... And he just asked me if I could cook for him, because he has a lot of parties...
所以很容易进入这个圈子。 So it was quite easy to get into that.
他总是很忙。 He's always busy.
我很久没见到他了，只有简短的电话、电子邮件... I haven't seen him in a long time, only short telephone calls, e-mails...
他没有回答。 He doesn't reply.
-嘿，我的朋友！-又见面了！ - Hey, my friend! - Once again.
很高兴见到你！ Good to see you!
请坐 Sit down.
来自不同国家的不同秘密机构一直关注着我。 I'm continuously followed by different secret services from different countries.
所以他们扣留了我的护照。 So they retained my passport.
法官的判决是我不能离开西班牙领土。 The order of the judge is that I cannot leave Spanish territory.
因为我有武器，所以家里有机枪和手枪。 Because I had weapons, I had machine-guns and guns at home.
我一直喜欢各种武器。 And I always liked all kind of weapons.
谁不是？！ Who doesn't?!
-所以，在马德里的这个会议上…-是 啊 - So, at this meeting in Madrid... - Yeah?
……詹姆斯对他为什么想要、为什么感兴趣有什么想法吗 ...Does James give any ideas about why he wants, why he's interested
购买这种物资？ in buying this sort of materiel?
他喜欢把武器卖给以色列的敌人- Well, he likes to sell the weapons to the enemy of Israel, -
-这让亚历杭德罗非常高兴。 - which makes Alejandro quite happy.
基本上，这是我们感兴趣的武器。 Basically, it's the weapons we are interested in.
打以色列是说“操你妈，美国”的一种方式 Hitting Israel is a way to say "Fuck you, USA"
我们需要直接和合适的人坐下来。 We need to sit down with the right people straight away.
我们的军队经常向政府出售成品技术。 Our army are used to sell finished technology to governments.
因此，谈判出售任何东西都会很复杂- So it's going to be complicated to negotiate the sale of whatever; -
-短程或中程导弹。 - short or medium range missiles, with a private person.
但是 But...
谈论化学和您需要的原料... Talking about chemistry and components that you need...
……这更容易。因为 ...that's easier. Because...
……我们为您提供“租用”的技术和专家- ...we are kind of providing you with technology and experts that you "rent", -
-但我们不卖成品。 - but we are not selling the finished product.
啊，好的。 Ah, OK.
所以，好吧，这对我来说很好。 So, OK, that's fine for me.
我可以保证你会和合适的人会面- I can guarantee that you will have the meetings with the right people, -
-并且有可能将这些“科学家”带到海外。 - and that it is possible to bring those "scientists" overseas.
但是，当然，谈判条件是你必须安排的。 But, of course, the terms of negotiations is something you would have to arrange.
但实际上，我最亲密的同志会接待你的。 But actually, you will be received by my closest comrade.
他知道你要讨论什么。 And he knows what you are going to be discussing.
他也认识他，乌尔里克同志，因为他是姜俊珠。 He knows him also, comrade Ulrich, because he is Kang Jum-ju.
姜俊珠先生会在机场等你并安排一切- Mr. Kang Jum-ju will be waiting for you in the airport and arrange everything, -
-与合适的人交谈。 - to talk with the right people.
从现在开始- From now on -
-我们如履薄冰。 - we are on thin ice.
-我们必须非常小心。-对 - We have to be very careful. - Yes.
但是，这意味着... But, that said...
……有很多钱可以赚。 ...there's lot of money to be made.
-现在，他被困在西班牙--是的。 - At this point, he's stuck in Spain-- - Yeah.
…出于法律原因。 ...for legal reasons.
但他可以安排你和詹姆斯一起去朝鲜。 But he can organise your trip with James to North Korea.
我们于2017年1月同意前往朝鲜。 We agreed to go to North Korea in January 2017.
前往朝鲜执行秘密任务 Going on a secret mission to North Korea
需要仔细规划， calls for careful planning,
所以我第一次亲自会见鼹鼠和詹姆斯先生， so I had my first in-person meeting with the mole and Mr. James together,
确保詹姆斯先生 making sure that Mr. James especially
知道游戏中最重要的规则。 knew the most important rules of the game.
让我们从平常的层面开始，但礼物很重要。 Let's start on a banal level, but gifts are important.
在朝鲜最好的礼物之一是轩尼诗干邑白兰地。 And one of the best gifts in North Korea is Hennessy Cognac.
每个人至少要送一瓶。 You should at least bring one bottle each.
另一件重要的事情是：永远不要取笑- Another important thing is: Never to make fun of -
-伟大领袖，亲爱领袖，年轻的将军。 - The Great Leader, The Dear Leader, The Young General.
千万不要取笑金家的任何人。 Never make fun of any of the Kims.
你会觉得自己想说一句有趣的话。 You will be in situations where you feel like making a funny remark.
-不要那样。-好啊 - Don't go there. - OK.
他们的文化中渗透着武力与酒精。 It's a very militarized culture, and it's a very alcoholized culture.
世界上几乎没有一个国家能像朝鲜那样饮酒。 There is hardly a country in the world where they drink as much as in North Korea.
如果你是一个酒品不好的人，一个喝醉后失去控制的人- If you're a bad drinker:，someone who loses control when drunk, -
-那么你不应该去朝鲜。 - then you shouldn't go to North Korea.
永远不要使用隐藏的摄像头，也不要试图做任何隐密的事情。 Never use hidden camera or be tempted to do anything in secret.
你越不想引起结果，效果越好。他们来找你的次数越多，就越好。 The less you try to provoke results, the better. The more they come to you, the better.
我不是买的人，他们才是卖的人。 I'm not the one buying, they are the ones selling.
当然 Exactly.
-嗨，吉姆。我是安妮。-很高兴见到你。 - Hi, Jim. I'm Annie. - Pleasure to meet you.
很高兴见到你。 Lovely to meet you, too.
如果我们能让回答尽可能简短 If we can keep the answers as brief as possible
并且尽可能精确，那就太好了。 and as precise as possible, that would be appreciated.
当然 Sure.
那么，您对此时可能的风险有何看法？ So, what was your perception of the possible risk at this point?
是的，我是说... Yeah, I mean...
作为一名有前科的人，你不会把风险计算得那么高... As a former criminal, you don't calculate with risk that high...
和 And...
我想我其实更担心乌尔里克而不是我自己，因为- I think I actually was more worried for Ulrich than for myself, because -
-他以一种与我不同的方式参与——或正在参与——- - he was involved - or is involved - in another way than I was; -
-我被聘为演员。 -1 was hired in as an actor.
我也担心鼹鼠。 I was also worried for the mole.
詹姆斯先生曾在这一地区工作过。 Mr. James had been around the block.
他可以自食其力。 He could fend for himself.
但是鼹鼠呢？ But what about the mole?
他只是个退休厨师。 He was just a retired chef.
华盛顿 2016 美国
所以，我带他去拜访了一位可以给他上速成课的老师 So, I took him to see a teacher who could give him a crash course
在间谍中被称为“谍报技术 ”。 in what is known as "tradecraft" among spies.
简而言之，我带他去见麦克斯， In short, I took him to see Max,
前中情局特工。 a former CIA agent.
如果他犯了错误，他会发现自己 If he makes a mistake, he could find himself
与喷灯一起被绑在市中心 tied up in the centre of town with a blowtorch
告诉其他人做这件事的下场。 as an example for nobody else to do that.
所以 So...
但为什么要把内鬼的身份和秘密 But why trust a former CIA agent
告诉一个前中情局特工呢？这是个好问题。 with the identity and secrets of the mole? It's a good question.
麦克斯被中央情报局开除了 Max had been fired from the Central Intelligence Agency
并且在组织中的信誉也不好了， and was not in good standing with the company any more,
这使得信任他更安全。 which made it safer to trust him.
我要杀了你。 I'm going to kill you.
为什么？ Why?
好的，是的。 Okay, yep.
不管怎样，我需要一个能教鼹鼠诀窍的人 Anyway, I was in need of someone who could teach the mole the ropes
在他返回朝鲜之前。 before he returned to North Korea.
如果有人拿枪指着你， If somebody's holding a gun on you,
你不会指望他们把它拿走。 you're not going to expect them to-- take it away.
好吧你要找的只是一个瞬间的优势。 All right? All you're looking for is a split-second edge.
此外，俗话说， And besides, as the saying goes,
如今，你能相信谁？ who can you trust these days?
观察技能。 Observation skills.
-正如我所说，常见的就是常见…-是 啊 - What I say, what's common is common... - Yeah.
…不常见的就是不常见。 ...and what ain't, ain't.
这意味着如果这是常见的，这是该地区的常见情况， That means if it's common, that's usual for the area,
好吧，这很正常。 Okay, that's normal.
如果有什么异常的地方，它是有原因的， If something stands out, it stands out for a reason,
所以你必须注意你周围的环境。 so you've got to be aware of your surroundings.
你不妨把手机给他们，然后说：， You might as well give them your phone and say,
“这里，看看它，”因为现在就是这么简单。 "Here, look at it," because that's how easy it is nowadays.
你必须假设他们可以阅读你的所有信息。 You have to assume they can read all of your messages.
所以，当他们查看你的电子邮件帐户时， So, when they look at your emails accounts,
他们的手伸得很远很远很远很远。 they can go way, way, way, way, way back.
他们会觉得你背叛了他们。 They're going to feel like you betrayed them.
你真的不相信…社会主义或共产主义。 You didn't really believe in... in socialism or communism.
你真的不相信朝鲜是一个可以去的地方。 You didn't really believe in North Korea as a place to go.
你真的不相信。 You didn't really believe in it.
那只是你是个间谍。 That was all just-- You were a mole.
小心他们给你设的陷阱。 Be careful that they don't set a trap for you.
所以，当他们走出房间并留下文件时， So, like, when they walk out of the room and leave papers,
不要碰它们，不要靠近它们。 don't touch them, don't go near them.
然后，他们可以说，“哦，我们知道他会经历这些。” Then, they can say, "Oh, we knew he was going to go through these."
你不在乎这些。想都别想乱来。 You don't care about those. Don't even think about messing with that.
我告诉你，你是我的英雄，做这件事。 I tell you what, you are a hero of mine doing this.
这很危险。 It's very dangerous.
-所以，这是真正的交易。-是 啊 - So, this is the real deal. - Yeah.
-一路平安。-谢谢你，麦克斯。 - Safe journey. - Thank you, Max.
-祝你好运。-非常感谢。再见 - Godspeed. - Thank you. Bye.
再见。 Bye now.
就在这些焦虑之中， Right in the middle of these anxieties,
一名美国大学生在朝鲜被捕 an American university student was arrested in North Korea
被判劳役 was sentenced to hard labour
因为偷了宣传海报。沃姆比尔-- for stealing a propaganda poster. The Warmbier--
他的罪行只是偷了一张海报 His crime was simply stealing a poster
他在平壤的酒店里。 from his hotel in Pyongyang.
又一个美国人站在了风口浪尖， Another American front and centre
在平壤的宣传游行中。 in Pyongyang's propaganda parade.
我真诚乞求朝鲜人民和政府的宽恕
拜托，我犯了我一生中最严重的错误
奥托·弗雷德里克·沃姆比尔， Otto Frederick Warmbier,
弗吉尼亚大学商业专业， a University of Virginia business major,
做出戏剧性的、情绪化的忏悔。 making a dramatic, emotional confession.
如果祂在那里，请救救这个可怜无辜的替罪羊
拜托，请想想我的家人。
沃姆比尔的父母今天发表声明-- Warmbier's parents issued a statement today--
平壤 2017 朝鲜
康先生 李先生 詹姆斯先生 文化事务部部长 文化事务部 石油亿万富翁
-不要给士兵拍照。-好啊 - Don't take pictures of the soldiers. - OK.
那么，你能告诉我你到那里时发生了什么吗？ So, can you tell me what happened when you got there?
我们降落在平壤一个崭新的机场。 We were landing in a brand new airport in Pyongyang.
离飞机三步远，我们被丢在一边- Three steps out of the flight, we were put aside, -
-因为我有相机。 - because I had the camera.
因为有摄像头，警官不得不打电话给更高级别的警官- Because of the camera, the officer had to call a higher-ranking officer, -
-检查一下。 - to check that out.
当我们在那里着陆时- When we landed there, -
-两名政府官员来了- - two government officials came, -
-把我的手提箱从桌子上拿下来... - took my suitcase off the table...
我们四处奔波- We went all the way around, -
-他们把我放在贵宾休息室- - and they put me in the VIP lounge, -
-当重要人物旅行时会坐在那里。 - where the Main Man himself sits when he travels.
然后，我们等了五分钟，姜说：“你戴上奖牌了吗？” And then, we'd been waiting five minutes, Kang said: "Do you have your medal on?"
“给他看。” "Show him."
-是他吗？-那是姜先生。 - Is that him? - That is Mr. Kang.
我脱下夹克，他走了... I was taking off my jacket, and he went...
“对不起！请！欢迎来到朝鲜！” "Sorry! Please! Welcome to North Korea!"
我带着所有的设备，没有任何检查，直接走了出去- And I took all my equipment, without any check, and walked straight out -
-一辆奔驰等着接我们。 - for a Mercedes Benz waiting to pick us up.
第一天晚上，我们喝了很多酒，吃了一顿丰盛的晚餐。 The first evening we had a great dinner with a lot of alcohol.
茄子！ Cheese!
我比詹姆斯早到我的房间，然后姜来到我的房间问我： I went up to my room earlier than James, and Kang then came to my room and asked me:
“你确定这个人有他说的所有财产吗？” "Are you sure that this man has all the money that he's talking about?"
那么，一旦你到了那里，交易进展如何？ So, how did the deal progress once you were there?
嗯，一开始是观光，看房子和商业中心... Well, in the beginning, it was sightseeing, looking at houses and business centers...
姜？你能告诉我我们要去哪里吗？ Kang? Could you tell shortly where we are going?
现在我们要参观一个科技馆- Now we are going to visit a science and technology complex -
-它于去年落成。 - which was inaugurated last year.
我必须说，在这一点上- I must say, at this point, -
-我没有看到任何接近我被承诺的东西。 - I didn't see anything close to everything I was promised.
那么，我们称之为求爱期，持续了多久？ So how long did this, shall we call it a courtship period, last?
两天。然后它开始变得严肃起来。 Two days. Then it started getting serious.
两天。可以 Two days. Okay.
突然，第三天早上，我们被接走了。 Suddenly, the third morning, we got picked up.
我们互相看着对方：“这是又一次观光，还是什么？” We were looking at each other: "Is this another sightseeing, or what?"
当我们在车里时，他说我们要去见一些人- When we are in the car, he says we're going to meet some people -
-这能帮你解决问题。 - that can sort you out.
在朝鲜的所有时间里，我们一直在市中心开车。 All the time we've been in North Korea, we've been driving downtown.
现在我们开出了城，然后突然左转。 Now we're starting driving outside town, and then, suddenly, we take a left turn.
现在我们不是在你想让游客参观的地方。 And now we're not in a place you want to show tourists.
他们把我们带出了平壤，进入了一个贫民窟。 And they drove us outside of Pyongyang, into a slum area.
之后司机停车了。 So the driver parks.
我想：“这看起来不太对，但……” And I'm like: "This doesn't seem right, but..."
我的意思是：“没有地方能逃跑，所以集中注意力！” I mean: "Nowhere to run, so just focus!"
他们要我们去地下室。 And they wanted us to go down into a basement.
我们走下这些楼梯，真是令人毛骨悚然。 We walked down these stairs, and it was really creepy.
但随后，一扇大门打开了，我们走进了这个豪华的会议室... But then, a big door opened, and we came into this luxury conference room...
…有一张大桌子，很多食物和... ...with a big table, a lot of food and...
突然，我们来到了一家非常非常好的餐厅。 And suddenly, we are in a really, really nice restaurant.
-在地下室里，在一个破败的房子里 -是 啊 - Under a basement, in a rotting house. - Yeah.
你吓坏了吗？ Were you frightened?
-我尽量不害怕。 -1 try not to be.
然后我们发现我们和军工厂的厂长坐在一起。 Then we found out we were sitting together with the president from the arms factory.
这是拍这张照片的时候吗？ Is this when this photograph was taken?
-是的。 -Yes.
那么，你能告诉我谁是谁吗？ So, can you tell me who is who?
这是军工厂的厂长。 This is the president of the arms factory.
这位是情报官员。 This one is the intelligence officer.
他的英语真的很好。 His English was really good.
他的问题与其他人绝对的不同- His questions were definitely different from the others', -
-他开始审问我。 - and he kind of started to interrogate me.
当时我必须想出一个公司名称- And it was at that time I had to come up with a company name, -
-因为当时我们没有公司名称。 - because we did not have a company name at that time.
所以他说：“你的公司叫什么？” So he said: "What's your company name?"
所以我说：“负责这件事的人”- So I said: "The one who's taking care of this" -
-“是塔加集团。” - "is Taga Group."
我想：“请记住这个名字！” And I was like: "Please remember that name!"
然后有一个我们称之为“石头脸”。 Then there was one we referred to as "Stoneface".
然后，他们拿出了武器系统的目录，让我们大吃一惊。 Then they surprised us by taking out the catalogue of their weapon systems.
我说：“好的！” And I was like: "OK!"
他们给了我照片... They gave me pictures...
…并说：“这就是我们可以为你解决的问题。。” ...and said: "This is what we can sort you out with."
-像菜单吗？-是 啊 - Like a sort of menu? - Yeah.
可以 Okay.
我们在谈论什么样的武器？ And what sort of weapons are we talking about?
各种武器。 All kinds of weapons.
导弹...非常大的导弹。 Missiles... Really big missiles.
坦克... Tanks...
所以这一切都提供了吗？ So this is all on offer?
是的，这就是我们刚刚放在桌上的东西。 Yeah, this is what we were just handed over the table.
-哇！所以我们有飞毛腿导弹？-是 啊 - Wow! So we've got Scud missiles? - Yeah.
所以，你可以花一千四百万美元买五枚飞毛腿导弹。 So, you can get five Scud missiles for $14 million.
-导弹发射车。-是 啊 - Missile launchers. - Yeah.
因此，我们现在正准备使用飞毛腿-E导弹。 So we're going up to Scud-E missiles now.
天哪两千五百万美元。 Good God! $25 million.
-一千三百五十公里的射程... - 1350 km range...
……实际上是从朝鲜到日本。 ...that's practically from North Korea to Japan.
是 啊 Yeah.
这是一个高爆弹头，这是温压弹。哦！ And that's a high explosive warhead, and that's thermobaric. Oof!
我的意思是，这是你能得到的最接近核弹的东西了 I mean, that's as close as you can get to a nuke
除了核武器。 without it being a nuke.
这是什么？ What's this?
这是詹姆斯的协议... This is the agreement between James...
…和纳雷。 ...and Narae.
-军工厂？-是 啊 - The arms factory? - Yeah.
-都被签名和盖章了。-对 - All signed and sealed, as well. - Yes.
乌尔里克在这次会议上做了什么 And what was Ulrich doing during this meeting
当你签合同的时候？ when you were signing contracts?
他在拍摄。 He was filming.
他被允许拍摄视频？！ He was allowed to film?!
-有趣的部分来了，因为- - This is the funny part, because -
-乌尔里希的立场非常好，他们只是认为他在拍摄宣传片。 - Ulrich's position is so good that they just thought he filmed for propaganda videos.
-我也应该签朝文的吗？-对 - Should I sign the Korean one as well? - Yes.
签在哪里？ And where is that?
现在，你在朝鲜的一个秘密地堡里， At this point, you're in a secret underground lair in North Korea,
促进武器合同的签署。 facilitating the signature of a weapons contract.
在这个阶段你脑子里想的是什么？ What is going through your head at this stage?
很多事情。首先- Many things. First of all, -
-七年来，我几乎一直在向我妻子撒谎。 - I've been practically lying for my wife for seven years.
所以…我在想这个。 So... I was thinking about that.
亚历杭德罗知道这一切吗？ And Alejandro is aware of all of this?
-他知道一切。 - He's aware of everything.
我很快就会去西班牙看望亚历杭德罗同志，并给他一份详细的报告- I will soon go to Spain to visit comrade Alejandro, and give him a detailed report -
-我们今天在这里与詹姆斯一起取得的成就。 - about what we have achieved here today together with James.
干杯 Cheers!
-为了你！-干杯！非常感谢。 - And for you! - Cheers! Thank you.
所以我们同意在朝鲜之外的地方建一座工厂- So we agreed on building a factory outside North Korea, -
纳雷将在第三国建立军工厂，以生产军事装备，并提供技术人员来操作工厂。
-制造武器和甲基苯丙胺。 - that would make weapons and methamphetamine.
去氧麻黄碱
而且，按照他们的习惯- And, as is custom for them, -
-他们建议将它建在地下。 - they suggest it will definitely be underground.
朝鲜人有什么偏好吗 And did the Koreans have any preferences
当涉及到国家，或建议？ when it came to countries, or suggestions?
出现的第一个目的地是纳米比亚- The first destination that came up, was Namibia, -
-他们在政府中有关系密切的人。 - where they had friendly people in the government.
由于制裁，这件事被取消了。 That was taken off the table due to the sanctions.
因此，下一个被提上台面的国家是乌干达。 So, the next country that was put on the table, was Uganda.
综上所述， So, to sum it up,
你现在是朝鲜武器交易商和经纪人？ you are now a North Korean weapons dealer and broker?
对 Yes.
晚上好，很高兴有你在这里 Good evening, and it's great to have you with us here
星期一晚上。我们从今天的最新发展开始， on a Monday night. And we begin with late developments today,
对一对来自俄亥俄州的父母来说，日益恶化的恐惧。 the worsening horror for a mother and father from Ohio.
他们的儿子刚刚从朝鲜回来 Their son, who was just returned from North Korea
伴着严重脑损伤，现已死亡。 with severe brain damage, has now died.
从他们儿子被判刑那一刻起 Since the moment their son was sentenced
偷宣传海报的苦役， to hard labour for stealing a propaganda poster,
沃姆比尔一家一直在战斗，直到他被释放。 the Warmbiers were fighting until he was released.
看他的眼神，我当时不知道他是盲人， The look in his eyes, which I didn't know he was blind at the time,
是绝对的恐怖，就像他看到了魔鬼。 was absolute horror - horror like he'd seen the devil.
他和魔鬼在一起。 And he had. He was with the devil.
让我们先说“欢迎回家”。 Let's begin by saying "Welcome home".
谢谢。 Thanks a lot.
回到哥本哈根，我惊讶地发现我的两个代理人 Back in Copenhagen, I was shocked to discover what my two proxies
在平壤取得了成功。 had accomplished in Pyongyang.
他们带来了真实、原始的情报。 They had brought real, raw intelligence with them.
正如学者安德里亚·伯杰在其研究《目标市场》中所写， As the scholar Andrea Berger writes in her study Target Markets,
对朝鲜武器系统的定价知之甚少， very little is known about pricing on North Korean weapons systems,
但这里有一份完全详细的硬拷贝目录。 but here was a fully detailed menu in hard copy.
詹姆斯先生被任命为朝鲜武器经纪人 Mr. James being appointed as a North Korean arms broker
似乎是一个病态思维的产物， seemed like the figment of a sick mind,
但这里还有一份签字盖章的合同， but here also was a signed and sealed contract,
由朝鲜人用英语起草。 drawn up in English by the North Koreans.
我们签了... We signed it...
在詹姆斯先生来之前，只有少数非朝鲜人 Before Mr. James came along, only a few non-Koreans
曾为平壤政权代理武器。 had been known to broker weapons for the regime in Pyongyang.
早在2011年，英国军火商迈克尔·兰格被捕 Back in 2011, the British arms dealer Michael Ranger was arrested
他为阿塞拜疆和朝鲜之间的交易牵线搭桥， for brokering a deal between Azerbaijan and North Korea,
但他是一个经验丰富的军火商，参与了一场危险的游戏 but he was a highly experienced arms dealer in a dangerous game
这对于专家来说很危险，更不用说业余爱好者了。 for experts, let alone amateurs.
尽管如此，詹姆斯先生和鼹鼠还是中了头奖。 Nevertheless, Mr. James and the mole had scored a jackpot.
我升职了...我接到了一项任务。 And I got promoted... I have been given an assignment.
标题是：“纳雷贸易公司商业代理的荣誉职位”。 The title is: "Honorary Position of Business Agent for Narae Trading Corporation".
我必须通知我亲爱的朋友亚历杭德罗升职的消息。 I have to inform my dear friend Alejandro about the promotion.
因为在朝鲜，我们同意我会给亚历杭德罗一份关于这次访问的完整报告。 Because in Korea, we agreed that I would give Alejandro a full report about the visit.
塔拉戈纳 2017 西班牙
-准备好了吗？-一切就绪。 - Is it ready? - All is ready.
我胸前的相机怎么样，还好吗？ What about the camera on my chest, is it fine?
亚历杭德罗同志！你好吗 Comrade Alejandro! How are you?
-欢迎来到“地堡”。-非常感谢。 - Welcome to "The Bunker". - Thank you.
是的，地堡。完美的 Yes, the bunker. Perfect.
这里很热。我们在平壤的时候只有零下21度。 It's hot here. We had minus 21 in Pyongyang, when we were there.
真正地 Really?
为了让鼹鼠做好下一次任务的准备，亚历杭德罗现在将提供指导 To prepare the mole for his next mission, Alejandro would now provide
如何在乌干达经商。 guidance on how to operate as a businessman in Uganda.
在非洲，没有人会照顾你。 In Africa, nobody is going to take care of you.
-詹姆斯的生命，你的命我的命，只值五十美元 -好啊 - The life of James，your life mylife, is worth 50 US dollars. - OK.
这就是雇佣杀手割喉的报价。 That's what it costs to hire a hitman and cut your throat.
字面上的，割断你的喉咙。 Literally cut your throat.
别忘了他们很强壮- And don't forget that they are quite strong, -
-因为他们整天在阳光下工作。 - because they work all day under the sun.
砍倒灌木丛和一切。 Taking the bush and everything.
黑人有那东西... The negro has that thing...
当你不看他们的时候，他们会偷... In the moment you don't look at them, they will steal...
…你的一切，哪怕是一滴水。 ...everything from you, even a drop of water.
他们需要总是有一个人在上面，告诉他们该做什么。 And they need always to have a person on top of them, telling them what to do.
如果没有，他们只会睡觉或偷窃，睡觉或偷窃。 If not, they'd just sleep or steal. Sleep or steal.
如果白人主人不在，他们会觉得自己像动物一样，破坏一切。 If the white master is not there, they will feel like animals, and destroy everything.
因此，他需要真正谨慎地对待进来的人？ So he needs to be really careful about whom to bring in?
是的，是的，非常小心。 Yes, yes, very careful.
如果要任命一个人，必须是一个愿意为之牺牲的人。 And if one person is to be appointed, it has to be a person willing to die for it.
但是…想法是什么...？ But what is the idea of...?
其目的是制造- The idea is to make the -
-甲基苯丙胺和武器。 - methamphetamine and weapons.
当你谈论生意时，不要再使用这些词。好吗？ When you're talking about the business, do never use those words again. OK?
我认为你应该小心。 I think you should take care.
突然，他站起来，说他想给我看些东西。 Suddenly, he just stood up and said he wanted to show me something.
这是一个信号检测器。它会检测到你可能携带的任何种类的窃听器- This is a bug detector. It will detect any kind of bugs that you may carry, -
-或者可能有人穿在你身上。 - or that someone may have put on you.
如果你身上有麦克风或其他东西，它会发出信号。 If you have a microphone or something on you, it will make a signal.
-好吗？-啊，好的。太好了。 - OK? - Ah, OK. Perfect.
-你有麦克风吗？-我的麦克风开着，是的 - You were mic'd up? - I was mic'd up, yeah.
试试我的手机。 Try my phone.
啊，好的。 Ah, OK.
这是一个信号。 Here is a signal.
你有射频的东西吗？无线电频率？ Do you have something RF? Radio Frequency?
我有租来的车的车钥匙。 I have the car key for my rental car.
我桌上有一个小包，我的车钥匙在里面。 I have a small bag on the table. I have my car key in it.
也许是因为它把一些信号降下来了？ Maybe it's because it takes some signals down?
这是通过远程控制的。 This is by remote control.
所以它在向... So it was sending a signal to the...
但这是…我扫了很多次。我们什么都没有。 But this is... I sweep it many times. We don't have anything.
请在我们来之前每次都这样做。 Please, do that every time before we come.
所以，当你谈论生意时，你必须找到两个黑话来谈论这两件事。 So, when you're talking about the business, you have to find two words to talk about two things.
千万不要用以前用过的词，好吗？ Never use those words that you used before, OK?
例如，当提到你吸的东西时，你应该谈论罐装海鲜 You should talk about canned seafood, for example, when referring to something you eat
当你谈到另一件事时，让我们来谈谈当地人制作的木制工艺品。 and when you are talking about the other thing, let's talk about wood handicrafts, made by the native people.
这样，他们就永远搞不清你在说什么。这种信息传递是必不可少的。 This way, they can never figure out what you're talking about. This kind of messaging is essential.
我们谈论的不是一件小事。如果这件事失败了，就会有很多人失败。 We are not talking about a small thing. If this goes down, there are many millions going down.
所以，詹姆斯也必须明白，这不是孩子的游戏。 So, also James has to understand, this is not a child's game.
不，我对他说：“听着……” No. I said to him: "Listen..."
说真的，因为这样对你很容易... To be serious, because it's as easy as this, to do like this to you...
…我可以放麦克风。-对 ...I can put a microphone. - Yes.
“嗨，你好，欢迎来到巴塞罗那！” "Hey, hello, welcome to Barcelona!"
然后你就不知道你在泄露信息。 And then you have no idea that you are broadcasting information.
很好，我们需要。特别是那个好的。俄罗斯的那个。 It's good, we need that. Especially the good one. The Russian one.
这只是基本的。 This is just basic.
就这些，不是吗？我们讨论了所有问题。 That's all, no? We discussed all the issues.
接下来发生了什么？ What happened next?
我跳上车，然后- I jump in the car, and -
-然后我开始感觉不好。 - then I start to feel bad.
我脑子里有很多照片- I have a lot of pictures on my mind, -
-我现在只需要把这件事放下，因为它对我造成了伤害- - and I now I just need to get this off, because it did something to me; -
-真是千钧一发。 - it was such a close call.
所以，这里要说清楚， So, just to be fully clear here,
他完全了解了在乌干达建造秘密工厂的计划？ he was fully briefed on the plans to build the secret factory in Uganda?
-喜欢这个主意。-可以 - Loved the idea. - Okay.
坎帕拉 2017 乌干达
在乌干达，詹姆斯将是进攻手。 In Uganda, Mr. James would be the playmaker.
是的，好的。 Yeah, okay.
要把这一切都拍下来， And to have it all on camera,
他带了一个正在拍摄的摄影师 he brought a photographer who was filming
该摄影师正在拍摄关于他作为国际神秘人物的生活的秘密视频。 for a covert video about his life as a man of international mystery.
还有鼹鼠，他带着隐藏的相机。 And the mole, he brought his hidden camera.
-按钮在哪里？-在旁边 - Where's the button? - On the side.
是的，现在是红色的。 Yes, it's red now.
再见 See you.
那么，接下来会发生什么？ So, what happens next?
然后，朝鲜人抵达坎帕拉。 Then, the North Koreans arrived in Kampala.
嗨，你来了！很高兴再次见到你！ Hi, you're there! Good to see you again!
早上好很高兴见到你。 Good morning. Nice to see you.
其中一个，他是地堡里的人之一，在我签名时。 One of them, he was one of the people in the basement, while I was signing.
那是...？ Is that...?
-是的，那就是我们称之为“石头脸”的人。 - Yes, that's the person we named "Stoneface".
他是谁？ And who is he?
那是丹尼先生，来自朝鲜的国际军火商。 That's Mr. Danny, the international arms dealer from North Korea.
请进来。 Please come in.
你可以进来，没问题。 You can walk in here, no problem.
非常感谢。非常感谢。 Thank you. Thank you.
我想詹姆斯先生很快就会来。 I think Mr. James will come shortly.
所以我们可以自己聊一聊。 So we can talk a little ourselves.
本月早些时候，朝鲜威胁要开火 Earlier this month, North Korea threatened to fire
向美国领土关岛发射导弹。 missiles towards the US territory of Guam.
这激起了美国总统对战争的威胁。 This provoked the US president into threats of war.
我在新闻中看到，朝鲜今天上午进行了一次成功的导弹试射？ I read in the news that the DPRK had a successful missile test this morning?
对 Yes.
我没有任何担忧，我只是认为唐纳德·特朗普总统是个疯子。 I don't have any concerns, I just think that president Donald Trump is a crazy man.
他说了什么？ What did he say?
朝鲜最好不要再对美国做出任何威胁。 North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States.
他们将遭到猛烈的攻击 They will be met with fire and fury
将是全世界从未见过的。 like the world has never seen.
我们将继续发射导弹，直到美国人停止挑衅我们的国家。 We will continue to launch missiles, until the Americans stop provoking our country.
你来了！你好 There you are! Hello.
很高兴见到你！你好很高兴再次见到你。 Nice to see you! Hi. Nice to see you again.
两秒钟。我关上这里。 Two seconds. I'll just close here.
当时的想法是买一座岛- The idea was to buy an island -
-在地下建造一个武器工厂。 - and build a weapons factory underground.
所以，我一直在考察一个岛屿。 So, I've been looking at an island.
这个岛很完美。它在维多利亚湖的中央。 This island is perfect. It's in the middle of Victoria Lake.
因此，如果飞机降落，湖边上的人甚至看不到它们。 So if airplanes come down, people on the mainland would not even see them.
纪念品 Souvenir!
我们去了那里，去看看这个岛... We went there, to check out the island...
你是怎么找到这个岛的？ How had you found the island in the first place?
哦 Oh...
…谷歌。 ...Google.
我找到了一个可以购买私人岛屿的地方。 I found a place where you can buy private islands.
我可以花五百万美元买这个。 I could get this for five million dollars.
这个岛是个很好的主意。 This island is a very good idea.
我们建造了厂房，然后- We construct the factory building, and then, after that, -
-我们必须提供一些设备。 - we must provide some equipment.
设备取决于产品。 The equipment depends on the products.
您可以向我们购买... You can purchase from us...
首先我们可以，比如说，使用导弹。 First we can, for example, with the missiles.
或者几种导弹。 Or several kind of missiles.
你让自家的飞机飞到我们国家- You bring your own aircraft to our country, -
-以人道主义援助为名。 - under the name of humanitarian aid.
你可以带一些衣服，一些食物... You can bring some clothing, some food...
然后我们可以装载所有合同项目- Then we can load all the contracted items, -
-然后你付钱给我们，然后你飞回来。 - then you pay money to us, and then you fly back.
我们可以为您提供一切- We can provide you with everything -
-从小型弹药到大型导弹。 - from small ammunition to big missiles.
还有电子战设备。 Electro-warrior items also.
雷达，所有的通讯系统... Radar, all the communications systems...
……我们可以制造任何武器。 ...we can do everything.
所以我们想出去看看- So we wanted to go out and see -
-如果它真的可以用于这个目的。 - if it could actually be used for the purpose.
岛主代表
裘德·穆佐拉 房地产经纪人
在我们去之前，房地产商- And before we went there, the real estate man on it -
-说他已经告诉了岛上的人- - said that he had told the people on the island -
-因为人们住在岛上- — because people lived on the island —
-我们是来建医院的。 - that we were there to build a hospital.
所以整个村子都在欢迎我们。 So the whole village is there to welcome us.
啊！非常感谢。 Ah! Thank you!
我们在等某人。 We are waiting for someone.
你妹妹？你哥哥？ Your sister? Your brother?
我所说的是在一个友好的聚会上- What I was saying was to introduce you as a friendly party -
-把你介绍给岛上的人。 - to the people on the island.
因为我们不想让他们知道地主和我们之间的交易。 Because we don't want them to know about the transaction between the landlord and us.
这就是为什么你告诉他们我是来建医院的？ And this is why you told them that I was there to build a hospital?
-是的。-好的，我明白了。 - Yes. - OK. I see.
所以我需要你的合作，好吗？ So I need your cooperation, OK?
好的，现在让我们祈祷。 OK. Now let us pray.
我以耶稣的名义祝福这些人... I bless this people in Jesus' name...
这个家伙，他对我说：“我告诉过岛上的人。”- This guy, he said to me: "I have told people on the island" -
-“你要建一所医院”。我说：“什么？！” - "you're gonna build a hospital". I said: "What?!"
“我看起来不像医院的人！” "I don't look like a hospital guy!"
我的职责- My duty -
-就是把那些人从土地上赶走- - is to remove those people from the land -
-而不会引起摩擦。 - without causing friction.
好啊 OK.
我们能以多快的速度让他们移民？ And how fast can we have them moved?
最长为四个月。 Maximum is four months.
-这已经包含在价格中了，对吧？-是 啊 - That is included in the price, right? - Yeah.
-这就是他们踢足球的地方？-对 - So this is where they play football? - Yes.
我想这里可能有一个很棒的着陆场。 I think there could be a great landing field here.
-是的，是的，非常好。-好的。太好了。 - Yes, yes, very much so. - OK. Perfect.
好的，很好。很好。 OK, that's good. It's good.
但现在的情况...美国正在监视我们的国家。 But now the situation... America is watching our country.
美国情报机构不应该知道这个项目。 The US intelligence agencies should not know about this project.
所以，想法是... So, the idea is...
-这是他们的想法- — and this is their idea —
-我们应该在上面建一家酒店- - that we should build a hotel above; -
-某种度假胜地，这可以解释为什么我们在那里有一个着陆场。 - some kind of resort, and that can explain why we have a landing ground there.
其他一切都将建在地下。 Everything else will be built underground.
我给你看另一边的一个，然后我们就结束了， I will show you one on the other side and then we are done,
然后你就对所有的事情有了一个概念 and then you have an idea of all the things.
你有没有觉得他们有什么特别的东西， Did you get an impression that they had something out of the box,
所以他们以前做过这件事，并有一个标准的计划， so they had done this before and had a standard plan,
伪装这些设施的标准外观？ a standard look for disguising these sort of facilities?
他们和其他人一起工作过吗？ They had worked with other people like this?
是的，是的，他们已经说过了。 Yes, yes, they'd already said that.
“我们有工程师，我们有知识..." ”We have the engineers, we have the knowledge..."
这不是关于我应该提出这些想法的讨论。 It was not a discussion about I should come up with those ideas.
因为，从一开始，我就只是一名投资者。 Because, from the beginning, I'm an investor.
“我投资于此；我认为这是个好主意”- "I invest in it; I think it's a good idea", -
-但整个建筑背后的建筑师是他们。 - but the architects behind the whole structure were them.
再见。 Bye bye.
当我们离开这个岛时，我感觉很糟糕。 I was feeling very bad when we left the island.
这个岛上有数千人。 There lives thousands on this island.
成千上万的人愿意离开这个岛- Thousands and thousands they're willing to throw off the island, -
-在四个月后，如果我拿出五百万美元。 - in four months, if I put down five million dollars.
如何做到这一点？政府参与了吗？ How can that be done? Was the government involved?
我们坐了下来- We had a sit-down, -
-由经纪人牵线- - established by the broker, -
-与政府官员会面。 - with government officials.
我很直接。我说： I was quite open. I said:
“我们想在岛上做点什么，我不能告诉你这是什么，”- "we want to do something on the island, I cannot tell you what it is," -
-“但我们想要百分之百的隐私，我们不想受到任何干扰，”- - "but we want 100% privacy, we don't want any interference," -
-“我想要这样，否则我们不想买这个岛。” - "and I want that, otherwise we don't want to buy the island."
如果这东西能飞起来，我们就能很快地行动 If this flies, we can move very fast.
我们可以让人们离开这个岛。 We can get the people out of the island.
我们可以开始这样做了。 And we can start doing this.
-当然。-听起来怎么样？ - Sure. - How does that sound?
这听起来很有趣。 That sounds very interesting.
我在政府工作了十五年。 I've been working with the government for the last 15 years.
这个项目是关于什么的？ What is the project about?
它会成为高尔夫度假胜地吗？码头？ Is it going to be a golf resort? A marina?
健康水疗中心？ A health spa?
我们想回馈社会。我们有企业社会责任... We want to give back to society. We have CSR obligations...
然后我们会投资一些学校或类似的东西。 Then we'll buy some schools or something like that.
我们希望获得许可，让飞机降落并从我们的岛上起飞。 We want clearance that we can land planes and take them off from our island.
机场许可证可以办理，只要它是投资计划的一部分。 The aerodrome license can be done, as long as it's part of the investment plan.
这只鸟将会起飞。 This bird will fly.
这是悦耳的音乐。 That's sweet music to our ears.
这就是我所做的。 That's what I do.
给我一个阿门！ Give me an Amen!
阿门，兄弟们！ Amen, brothers!
我们也很疯狂。 We were really crazy as well.
我们实际上得到了承诺- We actually got promised that -
-他们实际上可以- - they could actually -
-让海关保护我们的岛屿。 - have customs protect our island.
让我们一起祈祷吧。 Let's pray together.
天父，保佑我们的计划，保佑我们。阿门。 Heavenly Father, bless our project, bless our ideas. Amen.
阿门！ Amen!
非常感谢。 Thank you.
所以，尽管项目的真正目的 So, although the true purpose of the project was not
没有向非洲人透露， revealed to the Africans,
购买乌干达的岛屿 buying the island in Uganda
并将其用于秘密武器和毒品工厂 and using it for a secret weapons and drug factory
似乎正中朝鲜人的下怀， seemed to be right up the alley of the North Koreans,
这是一个很重要的证明。 which was kind of important to prove.
但它并没有就此止步，因为在乌干达， But it did not stop there because, while in Uganda,
朝鲜军火商丹尼先生准备 the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny was ready to take
将这一合资企业向前推进一步。 the joint venture a step further.
是的，我们可以在大厅见面。 Yeah, we can meet in the lobby.
你什么时候到？ When will you be there?
好的，我期待着见到你。当心。再见。 OK, I look forward to see you. Take care. Bye bye.
你说你还有一些东西需要运输吗？ You said you had some things you needed to move as well?
是的，例如，你能把我们的商品带到中东国家吗？ Yes, for example, can you can bring our items to Middle East countries?
-这件事与叙利亚有关。-叙利亚？ - This business is with Syria. - Syria?
他们想要什么样的物品？ What kind of items they want there?
-子弹，炸弹。-好啊 - Projectiles. Bombs. - OK.
如果你能把所有物品从朝鲜运到叙利亚... If you can transport all items from our country to Syria...
你给我一个招呼，我可以去北京，我们可以见面讨论需要什么。 You give me a signal and I can go to Beijing and we can meet and discuss what it takes.
朝鲜需要向叙利亚运送武器 North Koreans needing to move armaments to Syria is
实际上是一条非常有趣的信息， actually a very interesting piece of information,
所以请允许我离题一点。 so please allow me to digress a little bit.
历史上，朝鲜和叙利亚是多年的朋友 Historically, North Korea and Syria have been friends for many years
朝鲜人甚至在叙利亚建造核反应堆 and the North Koreans were even building a nuclear reactor
直到以色列人决定炸毁它。 in the Syrian desert until the Israelis decided to blow it up.
杂志称以色列在2007年使用十七吨炸药摧毁了叙利亚的反应堆
在叙利亚内战期间， During the civil war in Syria,
《纽约时报》发表了一篇关于朝鲜如何 the New York Times published a story about how North Korea was
帮助叙利亚政权实施化学武器计划。 helping the Syrian regime with its chemical weapons programme.
与此同时，还发现了来自朝鲜的轻兵器 At the same time, small arms from North Korea have been found
在伊斯兰国战士手中， in the hands of fighters from the Islamic State,
但这些武器很可能是从叙利亚军队偷来的。 but most likely these weapons were stolen from the Syrian army.
所以，当朝鲜军火商丹尼先生想要运送炸弹时 So, when the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny wants to send bombs
最终用户可能是叙利亚政权。 and projectiles to Syria, the end user is probably the Syrian regime.
你对丹尼说了什么 So what did you say to Danny
当他建议你帮助叙利亚行动时？ when he suggested that you help with the Syria move?
我答应了；我想这样做。 I said yes; I would like to do that.
然后他说：“那你就得去北京了。”- Then he said: "Then you'll have to go to Beijing" -
北京 2017 中国
我仍然感到不快的是，把詹姆斯先生送到北京 Something I still feel bad about is sending Mr. James to Beijing
与朝鲜军火商会面。 to meet with North Korean arms dealers.
身处黑暗的人知道黑暗面 People who are in the know about the dark side
强烈建议我们不要这样做。 advised us strongly against it.
因为如果中国的情报部门 Because if the Chinese intelligence service would shine
将灯照在詹姆斯先生身上，那将是另一个故事。 their lights on Mr. James, it would be another ball game entirely.
但詹姆斯先生是一个行动派 But Mr. James is a man who craves action
我是一个渴望轰动的电影制作人，所以他还是去了。 and I am a film-maker who craves sensation, so he went anyway.
在我去北京之前，我一直与丹尼先生保持联系- Before I'm going to Beijing, I've been in contact with Mr. Danny, -
-他说他已经把计划传达给了他的合作伙伴- - who said he had passed it on to his collaboration partner, -
-他会推动交易前进。 - and he will take it forward.
请坐，按照惯例，我从丹麦给你带来了一些好东西。 Sit down, and, as custom, I've brought you something from Denmark.
一个给你，一个给你。 One for you, and one for you.
第一天，只有两位先生到达。 The first day, there's only two gentlemen arriving.
其中一个人介绍自己是- And one of them introduce himself to be the main guy -
-武器行业的主要人物。 - of the weapon industry.
两人都是朝鲜人。 Both men are North Korean.
我知道这一点，因为有时他们会互相说朝鲜语 I know this because sometimes they speak Korean to each other
用北方的方言。 in the dialect of the North.
坦率地说，我们在各个方向都受阻。 Frankly speaking, we're blocked in all directions.
但我们都准备好向前迈进。 But we're all ready to move forward.
他们说，二十五名工人已准备好去往乌干达。 They say 25 workers are ready to be sent to Uganda.
显然，这两个人对乌干达的岛屿了如指掌- Clearly, the two men are in the know about the island in Uganda, -
-这似乎是当务之急。 - which seems to be a top priority.
如果他买下了这座岛并建造了工厂，那就不一样了。 If he had bought the island and built the factories, it would be different.
但他们能信任詹姆斯先生吗？ But can they trust Mr. James?
我不知道丹尼是否已经告诉过你我们正在做的生意？ I don't know if Danny has already told you about the business we are doing?
-武器，是吗？-武器，好的。 - The weapons, yeah? - Weapons, OK.
他对我说：“我们与叙利亚有合作，”- He said to me: "We have a collaboration with Syria," -
“但我们的问题是给他们武器库。” "But our problem is to give them the armoury."
“你认为你能帮助我们吗？” "Do you think you can help us?"
-对吗？-是的，叙利亚。 - Is that correct? - Yes, Syria.
-你在叙利亚有联系人吗？-是的，是的。 - You have contacts in Syria? - Yeah, yeah.
如果你给我一份你无法联系的人的名单- If you give me a list of the people that you officially cannot contact, -
-然后我可以联系他们，因为我可以到处旅行- - then I can contact them, because I can travel here and there, -
-代表您。 - on behalf of you.
我可以在这里抽烟吗？不，在外面？ May I smoke here? No, outside?
我不知道。 I don't know.
没关系，我去厕所。 It's OK, I'll go to the toilet.
厕所在外面。 The toilet is out there.
不，不，它在里面。 No, no. It is in there.
询问客户姓名 Asking for names of clients
对武器交易领域的接触来说似乎是一个阻碍。 and contacts in the world of arms dealing seems to be a show stopper.
他在问我们的客户是谁... He's asking about who our clients are...
他不是值得信任的人。 He is not someone to trust.
如果他像他说的那样有钱... If he has money as he says...
事实上，我在朝鲜的时候有点难过，那是在一月份，所以... Actually, I was kind of sad when I was in North Korea, it was in January, so...
-你去过朝鲜吗？-是 啊 - Have you been to North Korea? - Yeah.
你去过我们国家吗？ Have you visited our country?
-什么时候？-一月。我在朝鲜。是 啊 - When? - In January. I was in Korea. Yeah.
是谁邀请你的？ Who invited you?
-姜。-姜先生？ - Kang. - Mr. Kang?
是 啊 Yeah.
第二天，我们要见面，突然... The second day, we're meeting, then suddenly...
-我们称之为“石头脸”的那个出现了。 - the one we refer to as "Stoneface" appears.
而这两个人之间的权力动态是什么？ And what was the power dynamic between these two?
这是一件奇怪的事情，因为层次结构非常复杂。 This is the strange thing, because the hierarchy is very difficult.
很高兴再次见到你。 Good to see you again.
神秘的石头脸被召到北京了吗 Was the enigmatic Stoneface summoned to Beijing
为了核实詹姆斯先生的身份？ in order to verify the identity of Mr. James?
他一句话也不说，甚至不笑， He never says a word, he does not even smile,
所以我们永远无法摸清石头脸的态度， so we can never know for sure about Stoneface,
但可以肯定的是，他的出现产生了影响。 but it is safe to say that his appearance made a difference.
我们应该仔细检查一切... We should check everything very carefully...
……甚至这些墙都有耳朵和眼睛，你知道吗？ ...even these walls have ears and eyes, you know?
是 啊 Yeah.
我们正在寻找合适的人- We are looking for the right person -
-他负责运输。 - who is handling transporation.
例如，这个。 For example, this one.
步枪，手枪，空对空导弹。 Rifles, guns, air-to-air missiles.
目前，我们已经联系了另一个国家- At this moment we have contacted the other country, -
-他们在等着买这些。 - and they are waiting to buy these ones.
你能确认你在二到三个月内买下这个岛吗？ Can you confirm that you buy the island within 2—3 months?
我要做的就是亲自飞到那里- What I will do, is that I will fly down there personally -
-呆在那里直到它被买走。 - and stay down there until it's bought.
我当初去乌干达的唯一原因是- The only reason why I went to Uganda in the first place, -
-是因为你让我这么做的。 - was because you told me to.
乌干达的负责人，一位律师... The head of the of Uganda, a lawyer...
…是我的亲密伙伴。 ...is my close partner.
如果你需要，我会帮你。 So if you need, I'll help you.
但请考虑一下，他们的生活方式... But please consider, their ways of life...
……他们的工作风格与你和我们截然不同。 ...and their working style is quite different from you and us.
今天，“是的”，喝酒，“是”，明天，“忘记了”... Today, "yes", drink, "yes" tomorrow, "forgotten"...
-请考虑一下-好的。 - Please, consider it. - OK.
他们什么时候再次联系你的？ So, when did they contact you again?
事实上，这已经持续了很长时间。 It actually went a long time.
一年多了。 More than a year.
我的演员詹姆斯先生似乎有了自己的生命。 My actor, Mr. James, seemed to be taking on a life of his own.
这是一个令人担忧的问题。 That was a concern.
另一个令人担忧的问题是，鼹鼠要回西班牙做简报 Another concern was the mole going back to Spain to brief
向亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯，关于旅游项目， Alejandro Cao de Benos about the Tourism Project,
这是乌干达的地下武器和毒品工厂的代号。 the code name chosen for the underground weapons and drugs factory in Uganda.
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到目前为止，鼹鼠已经卧底了七年多 By now, the mole had been undercover for more than seven years
偏执狂情绪高涨。 and paranoia was running high.
到目前为止，没有情报部门发现我们， So far, no intelligence service had caught onto us,
但每次我们见到亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯， but, every time we met with Alejandro Cao de Benos,
我们不得不考虑这种可能性 we had to consider the possibility
他被幽灵跟踪。 that he was being followed by spooks.
同时，我们还必须考虑风险 At the same time, we also had to consider the risk
亚历杭德罗会升级他的反监视 that Alejandro would upgrade his counter surveillance
使用新设备麦克风。 with new devices for discovering microphones.
从现在起，鼹鼠只会在由我们选择酒店里和亚历杭德罗见面 From now on, the mole would only meet with Alejandro in a hotel
并有安全人员在隔壁待命 chosen by us with security on standby next door
以防他的身份被揭穿。 in case his cover was blown.
不久，亚历杭德罗又会给鼹鼠一个惊喜， Soon Alejandro would spring another surprise on the mole,
但首先是一段怀旧。 but first a piece of nostalgia.
你看，2006年和亚历杭德罗导游一起去朝鲜 You see, going to North Korea with Alejandro as my tour guide
给他留下了深刻的印象。 back in 2006 left a long-lasting impression on me.
显然，我也留下了长久的印象 Apparently I had also left a long-lasting impression
关于亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯 on Alejandro Cao de Benos
我的第一部关于朝鲜的纪录片《红色礼堂》也是如此。 and so had my first documentary about North Korea, The Red Chapel.
这部影片由两位韩裔丹麦人喜剧演员主演，他们去了平壤 The film stars two Danish-Korean comedians who go to Pyongyang
讽刺领导层， and lampoon the leadership,
这意味着我在朝鲜不再是受欢迎的先生了。 which means that I am not Mr. Popular in North Korea any more.
小猫咪。 Little pussycat.
路上的小猫咪... Little pussycat on the road...
这是一首关于猫的独立性的诗，一只小猫咪。 It's a poem about the independence of the cat, a little pussycat.
-一只小猫咪？那是什么？-一只猫。 - A little pussycat? What's that? - A cat.
-一只猫...还是…？-在英语中，你可以说pussycat或cat。 - A puss... or with...? - In English you can say pussycat or cat.
这是一只猫...喵。-喵...Pussy，这是什么意思？ It's a cat... Meow. - Meow... Pussy, what does it mean?
麦斯·布鲁格！你知道，我还有他的护照。布鲁格和另一个混蛋。 Mads Brugger! I still have his passport, you know. Brugger and the other fucker.
第一次旅行，是经过我，他们来找我。 First trip, it's by me. They come to me.
他们不止一次？ They were there more than once?
是的，他们在制作《红色礼堂》之前去过三次朝鲜。 Yes, they have been there three times before making "The Red Chapel". To North Korea.
突然，我接到平壤打来的电话： Suddenly, I receive a call from Pyongyang:
“亚历杭德罗，你知道《红色礼堂》发生了什么吗？” "Alejandro, you know what happened with "The Red Chapel"?"
“我什么都不知道！我没有参加会面。” "I know nothing! I was not in the meetings."
“我只是第一次带他们来。我甚至不知道他们是第二次、第三次来。” "I only brought them in the first trip. I don't even know they came second time, third time."
我说：“你知道吗，你不告诉我，这是你应得的。” I said: "You know what, you deserve that for not telling me."
“他们占了你的便宜。他们欺骗你，他们操你，现在他们正在发财。” "They took advantage of you. They cheat you, they fuck you, and now they are making a fortune."
如果你和他们在一起，你可以阻止他们。 And if you were with them, you could have stopped them.
当然我知道讽刺，我知道他们是怎么想的！ Of course! I know sarcasm, I know how they think!
就在他们说：“屄，小猫咪。”- In the moment that they said: "Pussy. Pussycat." -
我会对他说：“我会砸碎布鲁格的脸！把他扔到矿洞里！” I will say to him: "I will smash the face of Brugger! And put him in the mine!"
我会在朝鲜打他的脸因为你不能起诉我- And I will smash his face in North Korea, because you cannot prosecute me, -
-因为这是国家法律规定的。 - because it's under the laws of the country.
所以我会这么做的！操他妈！ So I will do that! What the fuck!
不管怎样，别介意。 Anyway, never mind about that.
撇开讽刺不谈，亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯是一个自以为是的人。 Sarcasm aside, Alejandro Cao de Benos is a man who thinks big.
在巴塞罗那的会议上，亚历杭德罗告诉鼹鼠 During the meeting in Barcelona, Alejandro tells the mole
三角交易的宏伟计划 of an ambitious plan for a triangle deal
涉及朝鲜的詹姆斯和一名约旦商人。 involving Mr. James, North Korea and a Jordanian businessman.
这是来自约旦的希沙姆·达索基。 This is Hisham Al Dasouki from Jordan.
他想为朝鲜提供燃料。 He wants to provide fuel to North Korea.
亚历杭德罗有了一个聪明的想法，我们可以达成“三角交易”... And Alejandro gets this wise idea that we can make a "triangle deal"...
是哪个...？ Which is...?
那就是我们把燃料送到朝鲜- Which is that we send the fuel to North Korea, -
-詹姆斯为武器零件和药品付款- - and James gets the payment in arms parts and pharmaceuticals -
-运到乌干达的岛屿。 - to the island in Uganda.
总的想法是你可以画三角形。 The general idea is that you can triangle.
没有人会知道...好的，现在我明白了。 And no one will ever know... OK, now I get it.
如果鼹鼠能把詹姆斯先生带到西班牙，亚历杭德罗会介绍 If the mole could get Mr. James to Spain, Alejandro will introduce him
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他的三角交易计划。 to his plans for triangular trading.
所以我们在巴塞罗那港的游艇上安排了会议。 So we set up the meeting in a yacht in the harbour of Barcelona.
你好，我的朋友。 Hello, my friend.
-好久不见了。-我必须这么说。 - Long time, no see. - 1 must say that.
-你好吗？-我很好。小心！ - How are you? - I'm good. Be careful!
很高兴见到你。 Good to see you.
你看起来很年轻，越来越年轻。 You look young, younger and younger.
我尽力。 I'm trying my best.
通常，我不喝酒，但今天...你能给我一点吗？ Normally, I don't drink, but today... Can you make me one of these?
是的，当然。 Yes, sure.
-亚历杭德罗？-我有这水，我很好。 - Alejandro? - I have this water, I'm fine.
血腥玛丽很好。 Bloody Mary is good.
我们先从三角形开始。 So let's start first with the triangle.
对所以，这个概念很简单。 Yes. So, the concept is very easy.
当我们在寻找石油时，由于制裁- When we were looking for oil, due to the sanctions, -
-我收到了平壤政府的命令- -1 received the order from Pyongyang, from our government, -
-寻找不同的货源：如果有人愿意向我们出售石油- - to look for different sources: Someone willing to sell oil to us, -
-他不介意制裁。 - who does not mind the sanctions.
所以，这是我们纳雷公司想要与达索基先生达成的协议。 So, this is a deal that our company Narae wanted to do with Mr. Dasouki.
姜先生告诉我：“看，我们也在做”- Mr. Kang told me: "Look, we are also doing" -
-“同时，与詹姆斯先生的生意。” - "the business, at the same time, with Mr. James."
“那么，我们为什么不做一个三角形呢？” "So, why don't we make a triangle?"
而不是你直接付钱给我们的国家- Instead of you paying to our country, -
-由于制裁等原因，这有点复杂- - which is a little complicated because of the sanctions, and so on, -
-尤其是业务的性质。 - and the nature of the business, especially.
“那么，为什么詹姆斯不直接付钱呢”... "So, instead of going direct, why doesn't James pay"...
比方说，你在买这种油- Like, let's say, you are buying this oil, -
-而不是朝鲜，尽管我们是接收它的人- - not the DPRK, although we are the one receiving it, -
-然后，这笔金额，可以从合同中扣除- - and then, from this amount, it can be deducted from the contract -
-以及您将在“旅游业务”中实现的操作。 - and for the operations that you are going to realize in the tourist business.
-所以，我们会收到武器…-对 - So, we will receive the weapons... - Yes.
…然后我们给他钱，然后他给石油。 ...and then we give him money, and then he gives oil.
他向朝鲜出售石油没有任何问题？ And he doesn't have any problem with selling oil to North Korea?
一点也没有。 Not at all.
所以他知道怎么把油弄到那里- So he knows how to get the oil there -
-不让船停下来？-确切地对 - without getting the boats stopped? - Exactly. Yes.
-他是海盗？-是的。 - So, he's kind of pirate? - Kind of, yeah.
嗯。 Hmm.
你在这一切中的立场是什么？ What is your position in all of this?
我是让事情运转起来的人，让我们这样说吧，好吗？ I'm the person who makes things work, let's say it like that, OK?
就像一个人在国际层面上安排一切一样- Like a person arranging everything at an international level, -
-就像媒人，我们可以说，嗯？ - like a matchmaker, we could say, huh?
我们可以说，通常情况下，大多数事情都是通过我来的- We could say that, normally, most things come through me, -
-我正参与我们国家许多最重要的交易。 - I'm in the middle of many of the most important transactions of our country.
在我们国家，我担任着我无法告诉你的职位- And I hold positions which I cannot tell you, in our country, -
-在非常高的级别上，在各部委中。 - at a very high level, in the ministries.
这是一个凌驾于所有其他部委之上的部委。 It's a ministry which is over all the other ministries.
所以，像这样的协议，你可以代表他们签署吗？ So, an agreement like this, you can sign on their behalf?
当然。 Sure. Exactly.
保证我的安全...？ And guarantee my security...?
-没错。-好的，让我们看看。 - Yes, exactly. - OK. Let's see.
他们只是认为我会交出钱- They just think I will hand over money, -
-我说：“我没有交任何钱。” - and I'm like: "I'm not handing over any money."
“我见过你，我信任你，但是…”- "I have met you, I have trust in you, but..." -
“……我想和达苏基先生面对面”。 "...I want to meet this Mr. Dasouki face to face".
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所以我的两个代理人，鼹鼠和詹姆斯先生， So my two proxies, the mole and Mr James,
去约旦看看是否真的有个叫 went to Jordan to find out if there really is a man named
达索基的人，他想与他们和朝鲜达成三角关系。 El Dasouki who wants to triangle with them and North Korea.
祝您有个美好的一天。 Have a nice day.
-达苏基先生？-你好吗 - Mr. Dasouki? - How are you?
最后，很高兴见到你。 Finally, nice to meet you.
请来拜访詹姆斯先生。 Please come and visit Mr. James.
-亚历杭德罗致以问候。-是的，他发了一封电子邮件。 - Alejandro sends his greetings. - Yes, he sent an e-mail.
好的，是的。我昨天和他谈过了。 OK, yeah. I spoke with him yesterday.
我很高兴我们终于在这里了。 I am happy that we're finally here now.
亚历杭德罗，真的-这个男人，我太喜欢他了。 Alejandro, really — this man, I like him so much.
这很好。 That's good.
-他是我的头号同志。我也爱他。-他告诉我很多关于你的事。 - He is my number one comrade. I love him, too. - He tells me so many things about you.
-他非常...热情。-对他是一名战士。 - He is very... passionate. - Yes. He is a fighter.
请 Please.
你好，詹姆斯。 Hello, James.
-你好。-嗨，詹姆斯先生。 - Hello. - Hi, Mr. James.
-我在前台遇到了一个好人。突然就来了。 - I met a nice man in the reception. - Suddenly it happens.
-你好。-欢迎，请坐。 - Hello. - Welcome, take a seat.
很高兴见到你。 Nice to see you.
干杯 Cheers!
只是为了让我了解你做的生意... Just for me to understand the kind of business you do...
我现在的业务主要有两个：化工和石油。 My business now is for two things: chemicals and petroleum, for oil.
我和政府里的一些朋友建立了一些联系。 I made some connections with some friends in the government.
好生意，好主意，信任-这就是你所需要的。 Good business, good idea, trust — That is all you need.
如果你有一堆钱，所有的门都为你敞开。 If you have a bunch of money, all doors are open for you.
所以，对于你的那一份，你向政府付款，这样我们就安全了？ So for your share, you pay off the government, so we are safe?
这不是以你的方式，这是我的事。 That's not your way, it's my spin. It's my side.
不是以你的名义，也不是以任何人的名义。 Not your names, not any names.
坦率地说，也不是以我的名义。 Not my name also, to be frank with you.
因为我必须保持我的清白。 Because I must keep my name clean.
如果有问题，你会有一个中间人来承担责任。 You have a middle man who takes the blame, if there's a problem.
因为现在把东西送到朝鲜-这有点棘手。 Because getting things to North Korea right now — it's a bit tricky.
对 Yes.
一路上都有卫星监视你。 You have satellites up your ass all the way.
每次我出口到朝鲜- Each time I export to Korea, -
-当我回来时，我改变船的名字。 - when I come back, I change the name of the ship.
因为一旦你去了那里，你就会被列入黑名单。 Because after you go there once, you get blacklisted.
当您进口或出口时，要做的一件重要事情... An important thing to do, when you import or export...
……不要直接驾驶你的船。 ...don't sail your ship directly.
一定有必要的停止并更改证件，然后再继续。 There must be a point to stop and change documents, and then go.
如果你需要，我可以帮你。 If you need, I can help you with that.
处理危险的东西， Something dangerous,
像机器一样， Like a machine,
我能做到这一点。我知道怎么做。 I can do this. I know how to do it.
我想这就是午饭。 I guess that's the food.
你好请进来。 Hello. Please come in.
我只是去洗手间。 I just go to the bathroom.
是的，当然，当然。 Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
它在外面，对吗？对 It is out here, right? Yes.
我们决定第二天见面- And we decided to meet up the next day -
-签署合同。 - for signing the contract.
很高兴再次见到你，我的朋友。非常感谢。 Nice to see you again, my friend. Thank you so much.
非常感谢。 Thank you.
我们开始做生意吧。 Let's do business.
这是我的俄罗斯签证文件。 This is my Russian visa document.
-这是用来交易石油的。-好啊 - This is for trading the oil. - OK.
把它从俄罗斯带到约旦- To take it out from Russia, to Jordan, -
-然后到迪拜，然后从迪拜发送... - then to Dubai, and from Dubai send it...
所以当你从符拉迪沃斯托克出发时，你会进入公海- So when you go from Vladivostok you go out, international, -
-然后你带着另一艘船回到南浦或其他什么地方，还是只是换个名字？ - and you go back to Nampo or something, with another vessel, or just change the name?
我用不同的方法来做这件事。 Different ways of doing this.
有时，它可以进入那艘船，我的船- Sometimes, it can go into that boat, my boat, -
-所有你喜欢的，去朝鲜。 - all you like, to North Korea.
有时候，你不能去- Sometimes, you cannot go, -
-你必须在国际水域换掉。 - you must change in international waters.
是的，是的。 Yeah, yeah.
如果你不着急，需要三十到四十天- If you're not in a hurry, it takes 30—40 days, -
-因为还有很长的路要走... - because of the long way to go...
是的，他们需要…没错。 Yes, they need to... Exactly.
…远离控制系统。 ...to get far away from the controlling systems.
俄罗斯政府给你合同... The government of Russia gives you the contracts...
一万？一千万？ 10 thousand? 10 million?
……你可以在任何地方航行，这取决于你。 ...and you can sail anywhere, it's up to you.
好的，是的。我理解。 OK, yeah. I understand.
-这就像黑手党。-好吧，我们是黑手党。 - It's like mafia. - OK. We are the mafia.
他们是黑手党！我们是一样的！ They are mafia! And we are the same!
我们是一样的。是 啊 We are the same. Yeah.
最后 Finally.
我还需要给亚历杭德罗和达苏基先生合影。 I also need a picture with Mr. Dasouki for Alejandro.
合同真的签了吗？ So was the contract actually signed?
他们签了合同。 They signed the contract.
多少钱？ For how much?
-我想，在那一点上... - I think, at that point...
……大约是三百二十万美元。 ...it was around 3.2 million US dollars.
-我们很快就开始干活。-非常感谢你。 - We'll do it soon. - Thank you very much.
不是无礼，但我能单独呆五分钟吗...？ Not to be rude, but could I have five minutes alone...?
是 啊 Yeah.
我就在外面喝一口。 I'll just take a sip outside.
我会把咖啡拿来。我五分钟后回来。 I'll bring my coffee. I'll come back in five minutes.
于是乌尔里克离开了房间，但我仍在录制对话。 So Ulrich leaves the room, but I'm still recording the conversation.
你能确保政府不会干涉吗？ And you can ensure that the government will not interfere?
这是我和你之间的私事。 This is something personal between me and you.
我正在与[消音]合作。 I am working with [...].
他是我的一个朋友，这就是全部。 He is one of my friends. That's all.
-好的-好的。 - OK. - OK.
在这里，达索基先生提到了一个重要的约旦权力掮客， Here, El Dasouki mentions a major Jordanian power broker,
但是，由于法律原因，他的名字无法公开。 but, due to legal reasons, his name cannot be disclosed.
斯德哥尔摩 2018 瑞典
接下来，鼹鼠被要求去瑞典 Next, the mole was asked to go to Sweden
因为有一个包裹等着他取 because a package was waiting for him to be picked up
在斯德哥尔摩的朝鲜大使馆。 at the North Korean embassy in Stockholm.
朝鲜驻瑞典大使馆
你好，李，我在这里。 Hello, Ri, I'm here.
-你好吗？-我很好。 - How are you? - I'm fine.
今天的太阳太美了。 The sun is so beautiful today.
所以，姜给我写信。 So, Kang wrote me.
是的，他把这些照片发给你看。 Yeah, he sent these photos for you to check.
非常感谢。 Thank you.
我去斯德哥尔摩的大使馆拿了一些图纸。 I went to the embassy in Stockholm to pick up some drawings.
你在这里看到的实际上是朝鲜的设计图纸- What you see here is actually a North Korean design -
-我们如何建造我们的武器/制药厂- - of how we can build our weapons/pharmaceutical factory -
-在乌干达。-啊。好啊 - in Uganda. - Ah. OK.
看起来很棒！外面看起来像个度假胜地，是吗？ It looks great! Outside it looks like a resort, yeah?
确切地这就是为什么我们需要... Exactly. That's why we need...
但里面设计得很巧妙，你知道吗？ But inside it looks so smart, you know?
李先生 朝鲜外交官
-就像电影里的一样。-是 啊 - It's like from a movie. - Yeah.
就像我的电影！ Like my sort of movie!
这实际上是俯视图。 This is actually how it will look from above.
-这里有高尔夫球场吗？-可能是的。 - A golf course here? - It could be, yeah.
-太好了。-是 啊 - That's great. - Yeah.
酒店名称呢？ What about the hotel title?
你打算给它起什么名字？ What are you going to title it?
我知道他们现在将与投资者就所有这些细节举行一些会议。 I know they are going to have some meetings with the investor about all those details now.
看起来没有朝鲜的风格。 Not something that smells like DPRK.
-没错。-对 - Exactly. - Yes.
所以 So...
我希望这会成功，只要保密。 I hope this is going to be successful, just keep it confidential.
当然要保密 -是 啊 Confidential. Of course. Yeah.
如果发生什么事，我们的大使馆对此一无所知，好吗？ If something happens, our embassy knows nothing about this, OK?
当然 Exactly.
谢谢你捎我一程。 Thank you for the ride.
你好 Hello.
哥本哈根 2019 丹麦
这是詹姆斯先生的助手之一。 This is one of the staff of Mr. James.
他会带我们去房间。 He will lead us to the room.
然后，在这个阴谋和欺骗的故事中， Then, in this tale of intrigue and deception,
一个新角色出现了。 a new character made his appearance.
来到哥本哈根的是朝鲜特使朱先生 It was Mr. Ju, a North Korean envoy who came to Copenhagen
和詹姆斯先生做生意。 to do business with Mr. James.
朱先生最后一次公开露面是在澳大利亚版 Last time the world met Mr. Ju was on the Australian version
《60分钟》中，他扮演一个微笑的喉舌 of 60 Minutes, where he acts as a smiling mouthpiece
对平壤政权来说。 for the regime in Pyongyang.
我们曾经很脆弱，但现在我们很强大。 We were weak, but now we are strong.
全心全意的团结，伟大的领导- Single-hearted unity, a great leadership, -
-我们有洲际弹道导弹- - and we have the ICBMs, -
-所以我通常会对唐纳德·特朗普说：“你过来啊，” - so I usually say to Donald Trump: "Come, come, come to me."
“我会用氢弹呛死你。” "I will choke you with my H-bombs."
哇！ Wow.
我计划去丹麦旅行，以便将“旅游市场”拓展到斯堪的纳维亚半岛。 I planned my trip to Denmark in order to expand the tourism market into Scandinavian countries.
和 And...
您与我们的合作伙伴有何联系？ What is your connection to our collaboration partners?
我和姜先生有着多年的亲密友谊。 I have a close friendship with Mr. Kang for many years.
姜先生让我去进行纳雷贸易公司的武器交易- Mr. Kang asked me to pick up the weapon deals of the Narae Trade Company, -
-签署合同。我这里有文件。 - to sign the contract. I have the document here.
他还希望我成为“旅游项目”的沟通者。 And also he wants me to be the communicator of "The Tourism Project".
-在乌干达？-是的，在乌干达。 - In Uganda? - Yeah, in Uganda.
合同明文规定了三角交易： The contract stipulates the triangle deal in print:
詹姆斯先生购买的石油流向朝鲜- Oil purchased by Mr. James goes to North Korea, -
-作为回报，朝鲜向乌干达的岛屿派遣原料和技术人员- - and in return, North Korea sends products and technicians to the island in Uganda, -
-制造“旅游产品”的地方。 - where "tourist goods” will be made.
给你。你用我的钢笔。 And here you go. And you have my pen.
丹麦传统。实际上，你用的是酒店的钢笔。 Danish tradition. Actually, you have the hotel's pen.
亚历杭德罗也知道这笔交易吗？ And did Alejandro know about this deal as well?
他非常清楚这一点。 He was very well aware of it.
-干杯！-干杯 - Cheers! - Cheers!
噢！ Oooh!
当然。让我们试试这个。 Exactly. Let's try this one.
现在朝鲜人会发现 Now the North Koreans would discover
丹麦也是一个酗酒的国家。 that Denmark, also, is a very alcoholised country.
干杯！都在酒里！ Cheers! All in one.
看看他。哦，不，不，你必须... Look at him. Oh, no, no. You have to...
祝你健康！ Chin-chin!
之后我们参观了小美人鱼- So we visited The Little Mermaid, -
-但他们喝醉了，我想他们都不记得了。 - but they were so drunk, I don't think they even remember.
如果詹姆斯先生选择履行他在哥本哈根签署的合同， Had Mr. James chosen to honour the contract he signed in Copenhagen,
他必须将数百万美元电汇给达索基 he would have to wire millions of dollars to El Dasouki
作为向朝鲜运输石油的款项。 in Jordan as payment for oil to North Korea.
作为回报，朝鲜将提供人力和产品 In return, North Korea would deliver manpower and products
到詹姆斯先生的岛上，这就是三角贸易。 to the island of Mr. James and so goes the triangle trade.
-我们可以画三角形。-确切地 - We can triangle. - Exactly.
达索基现在在约旦的办公室 From his office in Jordan, El Dasouki was now
威胁要采取法律行动，除非詹姆斯先生履行他们的合同 threatening legal action unless Mr James honoured their contract
并给他展示资金。 and showed him the money.
与此同时，朝鲜武器交易商丹尼先生， Meanwhile, the North Korean weapons dealer, Mr. Danny,
我们在乌干达遇到的那个人正在推动与詹姆斯先生的会面 who we met in Uganda, was pushing for a meeting with Mr. James
以“加速”业务。 in order to "speed up" the business.
金边 2019 柬埔寨
他们在柬埔寨的一家酒店相遇， They met in a hotel in Cambodia,
在那里，詹姆斯先生被提升到了信任圈的下一个等级。 where Mr. James was taken to the next level in the circle of trust.
我在那里时，他给了我一份新的订单清单。 He gave me a new order list while I was down there.
-我可以解释一下…-是 啊 - So, may I explain... - Yeah.
关于特殊物品业务，是的。 About the special items business, yes.
这不是一件普通的事。 It is not a common thing.
好啊 OK.
这个，第一个... This one, the number 1...
…这是为了攻击敌人的坦克。 ...it's to attack the enemy tanks.
然后第十一个可以攻击无人机。 Then number 11, can attack a drone.
它向无人机发出一种非常强大的冲击... It sends a very powerful impulse to the drone...
…然后无人机会...坠落 ...and then the drone will... drop.
就像那样。 Like that.
在柬埔寨，制裁显然奏效了。 In Cambodia, it became apparent that the sanctions are working.
朝鲜人迫切希望找到愿意购买的客户 The North Koreans are desperate to find clients who will buy
詹姆斯先生似乎是他们最大的希望。 their weapons and it seems like Mr James is their big white hope.
现在，在基地组织已经被击败的叙利亚- Now, in Syria with the IS already defeated, -
-所以在这种情况下，我们很难找到客户- - so in this situation, it's very difficult for us to find clients -
-他们想买一些这种军事装备。 - who want to buy some of this military armament.
如果您有任何客户，我们可以通过您提供商品。 If you have any clients, we can supply them through you.
如果我说：“好吧，听着，伙计们，我们想买大量武器”， If I'm saying: "Ok, listen, guys, we wanna buy a huge amount of weapons",
-我们可以做到。 - we can get that.
三角协议呢？ And what about the triangulation deal?
现在还剩下什么？ Where's that left at the moment?
我们有岛。我们可以明天开始那个项目。 We have the island. We could start that project tomorrow.
-所以这是你离开的地方？-是 啊 - So this is where you left it? - Yeah.
他们仍然信任你。 They still trust you.
是 啊，直到现在。 Yeah. For now.
但不会太久。 But not for long.
调查已尽可能深入， The investigation had gone as far as it could,
所以詹姆斯先生不得不消失。 so Mr. James had to disappear.
由于我的干预，詹姆斯先生离开了关系网 Thanks to my intervention, Mr. James went off the grid
然后就消失了，不再接打给他的电话，也不再回复发给他的电子邮件。 and simply vanished, no longer answering his phone nor his emails.
简而言之，詹姆斯先生成了一个幽灵。 In short, Mr. James became a ghost.
与此同时，鼹鼠在处理生意 Meanwhile, the mole was taking care of business
伦敦 2019 英国
作为斯堪的纳维亚半岛的KFA代表。 as the KFA delegate of Scandinavia.
首先，他去伦敦抗议英国广播公司， First, he went to London to protest against the BBC,
和他的战友一起， together with his comrade in arms,
朝鲜友好协会的英国代表， the British delegate of the Korean Friendship Association,
德莫特·霍奇森先生。 Mr. Dermot Hodgson.
大家好，这里是乌尔里克和德莫特。 Hello, everybody, this is Ulrich and Dermot.
我们在英国广播公司，这是... We are at the BBC, which is the...
……英国洗脑公司。 ...British Brainwashing Corporation.
英国广播公司继续他们关于人民朝鲜的谎言。 The BBC are continuing their lies about People's Korea.
巴塞罗那 2019 西班牙
然后鼹鼠去了西班牙，参加了他最后一次线下会面 Then the mole went to Spain for his last in-person meeting
与亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯会长。 with his president, Alejandro Cao de Benos.
哦非常感谢你！ Oh! Thank you very much!
你不让，我也不让，好吧。 You insist, I insist, OK.
议程上有几个项目。 Several items were on the agenda.
德莫特，他是英国人，我去过他的家。 Dermot, he is British, and I've been in his home.
所以坦率地说，英国人往往很肮脏。 So frankly speaking, British tend to be quite dirty.
他们喜欢脏的、发霉的、生锈的东西... They love dirty, mouldy, rusty things...
就像，他们喜欢它。 It's like, they love it.
地板上还有旧地毯。 And old carpets on the floor.
不仅是旧地毯，他还穿着满是泥的靴子。 Not only old carpets, but he enters with the boots full with mud.
泥！在房子里，你知道吗？ Mud! In the house, you know?
但最重要的是詹姆斯先生突然失踪。 But most important was the sudden disappearance of Mr. James.
很难相信你不认识的人。甚至你认识的人。就像詹姆斯。 It's difficult to trust people you don't know. And even people you know. Like James.
是的，这真的让我们损失了很多钱，很多时间... Yes, that really made us lose a lot of money, a lot of time...
对你，对我，对朝鲜... To you, to me, to Korea...
我觉得自己像个大白痴。 I feel myself like a big idiot.
我现在在朝鲜友谊协会中是好人吗？ Am I the right guy in KFA now?
因为我觉得有责任... Because I feel responsible...
不，因为我们知道你是谁。 No, because we know exactly who you are.
我们知道他是谁... And we know who he is...
我和这种有钱人有过一些接触，我已经习惯了。 I have some meetings with this kind of rich men, I'm used to this kind.
只有达苏基先生这样的人例外- The exception is people like Mr. Dasouki, -
-他是一个非常有钱、非常有权力、非常有影响力的人...也是一个非常谦逊的人。 - who is a very rich man, very powerful, very influential... but a very humble person.
詹姆斯是一个投机取巧的人，他只想排挤所有人，而不承认他们的工作。 James is an opportunistic person, who just wants to push out everyone, without recognising their work.
你是忠诚的，即使是作为一个仆人。不仅仅是忠诚。 You have been loyal, even as a servant. More than loyal.
坦率地说...我没有告诉你。 Frankly speaking... I didn't tell you.
你对待他的方式，他对待你的方式，就像从仆人到主人。 The way you treated him and the way he treated you, it was like from servant to the lord.
“给我一个血腥玛丽。你想要什么，亚历杭德罗？那就给我，乌尔里克先生…” "Give me a Bloody Mary. What do you want, Alejandro? Then serve me, Mr. Ulrich..."
你当然是我的同志。见到你我感到很难过。 Of course you are my comrade. I felt so bad, seeing you.
但我们只是在游戏，所以我不得不接受这一点。 But we are playing a game, so I had to accept that.
我也在为他玩游戏。 I was also playing my games for him.
我知道。我们都在玩游戏。 I know that. We are all playing games.
你知道你必须有你可以完全信任的人。 You know that you must have people that you can fully trust.
因为，如果只要有一个人去中情局...只要有一个。 Because, if only one goes to the CIA... Only one.
你这辈子就他妈完了。 You are fucked forever.
最重要的是， To top it off,
哥本哈根 2020 丹麦
鼹鼠被选为KFA年度会议的主持人。 the mole had been chosen as the host of the annual KFA meeting.
一直以来，作为木偶大师，是我为鼹鼠写演讲稿 All along, as the puppet master, it was I who wrote the speeches for the mole
现在他将发表最后的演讲。 and now he would deliver his final sermon.
亲爱的同志们！ Dear comrades!
KFA处于战争状态。我们在打仗！ The KFA is at war. We are at war!
我们有权向敌人开战。 And we have every right to wage war against our enemies.
因为一个人可以改变历史的进程。 Because one person can change the outcome of history.
“但是，我呢？”你可能会问。 "But, what about me?", you might ask.
“作为KFA代表，你在斯堪的纳维亚做了什么？” "What have you been doing as a KFA delegate for Scandinavia?"
我将在这里向您介绍“旅游项目”。 I will here present you, "The Tourist Project".
在这里。 Here it is.
玛娜，你能把这个拿下来吗？ Mana, can you take this one down, please?
按照我的计划，鼹鼠会分享 As I had planned it, the mole would share the fruits
他与导师亚历杭德罗一起进行的绝密工作。 of the top-secret work he had been doing with his mentor Alejandro.
美丽的酒店配有游泳池和酒店客房- Beautiful hotel with swimming pools and hotel rooms, -
-会议区、高尔夫球场... - meeting areas, golf course...
当然，鼹鼠只会使用甲基苯丙胺和武器的代号- Of course The Mole would only use the coded phrases for methamphetamine and weapons -
-这是亚历杭德罗·曹·德·贝诺斯在西班牙的地堡里教给他的。 - which Alejandro Cao de Benos had taught him in the bunker in Spain.
当提到你吸的东西时，它是海鲜罐头。 When referring to something that you eat, it's a seafood, canned seafood.
当你谈论另一件事时- And when you are talking about the other thing -
-你可以谈论例如，让我们谈论... - you can talk about for example, let's talk about...
木材，木制工艺品。 Wood. Wood handicraft.
是的，木制工艺品。 Wood handicraft, yes.
由当地人手工制作。 Made by hand, by the native people.
对 Yes.
在这里的这些房间里，可以生产有机海鲜或木制工艺品。 In those rooms here, it will be possible to produce organic seafood or wooden handicrafts.
这里建了一条路。 There's built a road up here.
这将通向一个简易机场。 Which will go up to an airstrip.
所以我们可以空运我们的产品。 So we can fly out our products.
卖往全世界。 To sell in the world.
如果你愿意，欢迎你上来拍照。 You're welcome to come up and take pictures, if you like.
非常感谢。很抱歉打扰了... Thank you. I'm sorry for the interruption...
在KFA年度会议之后， Following the annual KFA meeting,
朝鲜友好协会的一名成员 one member of the Korean Friendship Association
在KFA的留言板上称赞了“旅游项目"。 praised the Tourist Project on the message board of the KFA.
亚历杭德罗告诉鼹鼠立即删除所有内容。 Alejandro told the mole to delete everything at once.
”如果朝鲜进入战争状态，敌人将会犹豫是否要炸毁医院或酒店底下的军工厂。“
此外，一位名叫让·保罗的成员离开了KFA Also, a member named Jean Paul left the KFA
因为他对间谍和黑客感到恐慌。 because he panicked about spying and hacking.
在这些结束时， At the end of this,
我雇佣了前情报官员安妮·马琼。 I hired the former intelligence officer Annie Machon.
在她变得无赖并成为告密者之前， Before she went rogue and became a whistleblower,
她当时在英国安全部门军情五处工作。 she was working for the British security service, the MI5.
她作为告密者的功绩使她备受争议， Her exploits as a whistleblower have made her controversial,
但这与我无关。 but that is of no concern to me.
我只对她作为间谍的资质感兴趣。 I am only interested in her qualifications as a spy.
经营长期卧底是她的工作， Running long-time undercover agents was her line of work,
在任务结束时听特工汇报情况也是如此。 as was debriefing agents at the end of their missions.
如果有人花了十年的时间去做某事， If someone has put ten years of their life into doing something,
他们在做什么时都很孤独， and they've been very solitary in what they're doing,
他们确实需要一个机会来告诉某人 they do need a chance just to tell someone exactly
他们经历了什么。 what they went through.
这简直就像忏悔室。 It's almost like a confessional.
当然，你确实想，在结束时奖励他们， And, of course, you do want to, to reward them at the end of it,
即使这只是一件他们无法真正告诉任何人的事， even if it's just with a recognition they can't really tell anyone about,
除了他们的妻子或丈夫。 apart from perhaps their wife or their husband.
但这件事非常重要 But it is that recognition that's very important
当他们卧底这么久的时候。 when they've been working undercover for so long.
比如一顿丰盛的晚餐？ Such as a lavish dinner?
是的，丰盛的晚餐通常效果很好。 A lavish dinner usually works very well, yes.
我想为你们所取得的成就向你们两位举杯。 And I want to raise a toast to you both for what you have achieved.
我想这可能是 I think it's probably the
最令人印象深刻的私人情报行动 most impressive private intelligence operation
我所听说过的。 I've ever heard of.
你要怎么保护这两个人 How are you going to protect these two guys
免受朝鲜人的报复？ from any reprisals from the North Koreans?
关于詹姆斯先生，他拒绝了 Regarding Mr. James, he simply refuses to be
你知道，保护或安全建议。 you know, protected or advised about security.
可以 Okay.
我们已经为鼹鼠的善后计划做了准备， We have prepared for an after-care programme for the mole,
还负责他的安全。 also taking care of his security.
他的家人呢？ And his family?
还有他的家人。 And his family as well.
关于鼹鼠我更关心的是 What I am more concerned about regarding the mole is that
做鼹鼠是他身份的一部分 being the mole has been a part of his identity
十多年了，你知道吗？ for more than ten years, you know?
那么，当我们把他带回来时会发生什么？ So, what will happen when we bring him in?
进入任何形式的秘密世界都非常诱人。 Entering any form of secret-type world is very seductive.
我从个人经历中知道。 I know from personal experience.
对于那些过着双重生活的人来说， And, for those who have been living a double life,
伴随着所有的危险和肾上腺素的飙升， with all the danger and the adrenaline rush and everything,
回到平凡的现实往往是非常困难的。 it is incredibly difficult, often, to go back to mundane reality.
哥本哈根 2020 丹麦
从长远来看，我们都必须面对现实。 In the long-run, we all must face reality.
最后，我去了哥本哈根郊区 So, finally, I went to the suburbs of Copenhagen
看看鼹鼠住在哪里 to see where the mole lives
并会见他和他的妻子。 and meet with him and his wife.
是的，但是... Yes, but...
乌尔里克有件事想告诉你。 Ulrich has something he wants to tell you.
一个很长的故事。 A very long story.
说来话长， It is a long story,
但让我们切到结尾。 but let's cut to the ending.
在某种程度上，我为自己感到骄傲。 In a way, I'm a bit proud of myself.
我希望你能... And I hope that you can...
令人印象深刻的 ...be a bit impressed...
…我努力实现的目标。 ...of what I've tried to achieve.
…为全世界记录。 ...to document for the world to see.
我简直惊呆了。 I'm simply shaken.
我觉得你是个白痴- And I think that you are an idiot, -
-因为你什么都没告诉我。 - because you haven't told me anything.
对 Yes.
这是一层又一层的谎言。 It's lies upon lies.
我觉得这太难了。 I think this is fucking hard.
我想为乌尔里克辩护。 There is something I want to say in defense of Ulrich.
这是... It's...
这很重要。 It's important to say.
乌尔里克是我见过的最勇敢的人之一。 Ulrich is one of the bravest people I have ever met.
每天你都看不到他勇敢。 On an everyday basis you don't see him as brave.
然后更像是：“振作起来，做些清洁。” Then it's more like: "Get your act together and do some cleaning."
他与家人保持了很大的距离。 He has distanced himself a lot from the family.
越来越多...他正在消失。 More and more and more... He is disappearing.
现在已经持续了十一年了，我不知道... Now it's been going on for ten —eleven years, I don't know...
对 Yes.
但这太疯狂了。这对我来说太疯狂了。 But it has been crazy. It has been crazy for me.
什么都不能告诉你。 Not being able to tell you anything.
我经常想：“你在想什么？” I have often wondered: "What are you thinking?"
我没想那么多。 I haven't thought so much.
我在想现在会发生什么。 I am thinking more about what will happen now.
当我们走到路的尽头时。 When we are at the end of the road.
这会给我们一家人带来什么后果... And what consequences it will have for us as a family...
你坐在那里，我在这里。 You will be seated there, and I'll be over here.
唯一剩下的是一场更艰难的对话。 The only thing left was an even more difficult conversation.
我的心跳得很快。 My heart is beating fast.
-你好。-你好，亚历杭德罗。我看不见你。 - Hello. - Hello Alejandro. I can't see you.
哦“开始视频”好的。 Oh! "Start Video" Ok.
-你好 -你好吗 - Hello -How are you?
很好，你呢？ Yes fine and you?
我很好，所以很好。 Well, I'm fine, so that's nice.
亚历杭德罗，在我们开始之前，我有几件事想告诉你。 Alejandro, before we get started I have a few things I want to tell you.
对 Yes.
首先，我为什么对朝鲜如此感兴趣。 First of all, why I have been so interested in North Korea.
要找出你的真相。 And also to find out the truth about you.
我们在一起的所有会议实际上都被拍摄了下来。 All our meetings together have actually been filmed.
我一直表现得像间谍。 And I have been acting like a mole.
因为我正在和你一起拍电影。 Because I am making a film, with you.
我真的很想让你见见一直在帮助我完成这部影片的老师。 And I would really much like you to meet the instructor who's been helping me through this movie.
我希望你能回答他的问题。所以，请在这里见见他。 I hope you will answer his questions. So, please meet him here.
你好，亚历杭德罗。 Hello Alejandro.
是的，你好。 Yes hello.
我们又见面了。 We meet again.
是 啊 Yeah.
我们正在录制此对话。 We are recording this conversation.
我应该告诉你- And I should inform you that -
-一切都在录像带上，我们基本上什么都知道。 - everything is on tape, and we basically know everything.
所以这是一个很长的故事的结尾。 So this is the end of a very long story.
亚历杭德罗，你在吗？ Alejandro, are you there?
他断开了连接。 He disconnected.
他举起手，按下停止按钮。 He raised his hand and pressed the stop button.
当他出现在屏幕上时，我几乎要跑去上厕所了。 When he appeared on screen I was close to running for the toilet.
但当我开口时- But when I opened my mouth, -
-然后我又回到了... - then I was kind of back in...
…间谍的角色。 ...the role of The Mole.
是的。 But yes.
你想再次成为间谍吗？ Would you like to be The Mole again?
不一样。 Not the same way.
嗯，你永远不知道。 Well, you never know.
太棒了 Great.
我们能看吗？ Can we watch it?
在这部作品中，有几个人非自愿参与。他们在不知情的情况下， 被人用隐藏的摄像机和麦克风以及虚假的身份进行录像。
那些被秘密拍摄的人已经被告知他们的参与、对他们提出的主张以及他们被介绍的背景。 他们在纪录片定稿前就已经被告知。
这是他们的回应：
亚历杭德罗-曹-德-贝诺斯，朝鲜友好协会的负责人，拒绝接受影片采访的邀请。
亚历杭德罗-曹德-贝诺斯回答说，他认为鼹鼠是 "一部有偏见的、被摆布的和被操纵的电影"。
希沙姆·达索基回答说："诈骗是我在这次交易中的基本目标"。
裘德·穆佐拉和摩西·马加拉没有评论。
影片中的所有朝鲜人都是受雇于朝鲜民主主义人民共和国（朝鲜）并受其控制的， 他们在做自己的工作，他们所做的事情在朝鲜并不违法。
电影制作人已经与朝鲜驻瑞典大使取得联系，并向他提供了朝鲜国民参与的全部场景的记录。
朝鲜大使馆没有对这些主张做出任何评论。