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60 years ago, Israel fought
and won a war for its independence.

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For Palestinians,
defeat was a catastrophe.

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The two sides have been
fighting ever since.

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What happened 60 years ago still
shapes lives in Israel and the
occupied Palestinian territories.

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If they want peace, they'll need
to overcome the legacy of l948.

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Gaza - home to
1.4 million Palestinians,

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most of whom are refugees from
the land that became Israel.

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The current battleground
in this long war lies in
and around the Gaza Strip.

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Israel uses air strikes
and ground incursions.

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Palestinians rocket
Israeli border towns.

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Both sides blame each other.

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Two miles to the north of Gaza,
this is kibbutz Yad Mordechai.

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Some of the thousands of rockets
fired into Israel have landed here.

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History is never far away.

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This kibbutz - or communal farm -
was founded in the 1930s by Jews
from Poland. They were Zionists,

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who wanted to return to the biblical
home of the Jews to make a state.

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We build a society
with our own hands.

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By new forms of life,
not only by high-technology.

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The kibbutz,
and the development towns.

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Those are forms of life
that without it,

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you cannot understand what Israel is.

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We developed the best
agriculture maybe on earth.

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The Zionists had neighbours -
Palestinian Arab farmers, who'd been
working the land for centuries.

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The relationship between the two
was normal, and reasonably friendly.

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It was after 1930, with
the massive land purchases,

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with the massive immigration,

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that the Palestinians became aware
that their existence was at stake.

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In 1943, the kibbutz took
the name of Mordechai Anielewicz,

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the Jew who led the uprising in
the Warsaw Ghetto against the Nazis.

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They swore Jews would
never be defenceless again.

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There was no life
in a camp like Auschwitz.

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So then I decided, should I survive,
I'd become a Zionist activist.

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And by miracles, I did survive.

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Yad Mordechai has its
own Holocaust museum.

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They've also preserved
the field where they fought
the Egyptians during the 1948 war.

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MACHINE GUN RATTLES

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What happened here was
a critical moment in the fight
to create a Jewish state.

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60 years on,
Israelis have a lot to celebrate.

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It's been an extraordinary
feat of nation-building.

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But for Palestinians, every year,
this anniversary reminds them

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of what they call their catastrophe.

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For them, the last 60 years has
been about dispossession and exile.

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During Israel's independence war,
around 700,000 Palestinians
became refugees.

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They left everything.

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They left everything intact
at their homes, everything.

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Some families even left their money,
their jewels at home...

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..and ran. Thinking that...

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the storm will calm down and in two
or three months, they will come back.

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But Israel stopped them returning.

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Many of Yad Mordechai's
old Palestinian neighbours
are still close by -

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refugees in the Gaza Strip.

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They call it the world's
biggest prison.

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Here is a war, which had led

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to the uprooting of a villager
from his village.

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You know how attached a
villager is to his olive tree,

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to his little home, to his house,

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to his mode of life, to his...

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It's something unimaginable. I mean,

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the Palestinian people are
one of the oldest people

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in their habitation of Palestine.

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The Palestinians have to
do some soul-searching too.

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Why did it become a catastrophe?

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They could have accept most of
the land, a state of their own.

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THEY refused, not us.

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In 1947.

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We cannot apologise
for their mistake.

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In 1897, the Zionist movement in
Europe met and declared

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that it wanted to found a state
for Jews in Palestine.

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Two years later, the Arab Mayor
of Jerusalem

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begged them to leave
Palestine alone, and warned

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there'd be an Arab
uprising if they didn't.

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After the meeting in 1897,
two rabbis were sent to Palestine
to see what the country was like.

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They reported back,
"The bride is beautiful,
but she is married to another man."

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Some of the early Zionists warned
that confrontation with the Arabs
was going to be unavoidable.

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Others persuaded themselves that
Arabs would be glad to see them,

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because they were bringing with them
European expertise.

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The majority of Palestinian Arabs
lived traditional lives

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in around 800 largely
self-sufficient villages.

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Politics was local, and tribal.

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Life was hard.

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These days in the refugee
camps, it is idealised,
a lost dream of a homeland.

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"Village life was great.

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We worked the land and sold the crops
in Ramallah, Hebron and Jaffa.

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We had olives, watermelons,
cantaloupes, wheat and sesame.

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All these things.

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The people were happy and content.

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Britain controlled Palestine
between 1917 and 1948.

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In November 1917, as British
troops were fighting
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seizing Palestine from the Turks,

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the Foreign Secretary in London
wrote a letter that became known
as the Balfour Declaration.

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The Balfour Declaration said
the British would "view with favour
the establishment in Palestine

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"of a national home for the Jewish
people, and use their best
endeavours to make it happen."

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It also said it was clearly
understood that "nothing
shall be done

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"which may prejudice the civil
and religious rights of existing
non-Jewish communities in Palestine,

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"or the rights and political status
enjoyed by Jews
in any other country."

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Now, there's a whole series of
incompatible promises in that,

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and the British never
found a way to keep them.

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As a result, they were regarded
as betrayers - by both sides.

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For the Zionists,
it was a big step forward.

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But, said the writer
Arthur Koestler, it was
an impossible idea -

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one nation promising another
the land of a third.

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It did a great deal to create
the conflict that continues today.

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Small communities of religious
Jews had remained in
Palestine since Roman times.

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The new Jewish immigrants
were different.

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Many were socialists and atheists,
who wanted to escape persecution,
and to create a new society.

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A dream to change
the Jewish nature from a nation

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of merchants and bankers to
a nation of farmers and fighters.

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In 1929, there was a serious
clash here at the Western Wall,

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the holiest place in the world,
for Jewish prayer.

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More than 100,000 Jews had arrived
in Palestine in the 1920s,

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and some had good relations
with their Arab neighbours.

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But as immigration continued,
and as Arab land was sold

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for Jewish settlement,
then tensions rose.

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The trouble here spread
across Palestine.

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Religious Jews were
massacred in Hebron.

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Hundreds died on both sides,
and after that, nobody could have

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any illusions - the two communities
were on a collision course.

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Events in Europe brought
the collision closer.

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After 1933, Hitler turned
the power of the German state
against the Jews.

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Heil! Heil!

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Heil! Heil!

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I came after...

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a year under Hitler, in Vienna,

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which was a very, very bad year
for me as a child.

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And, er...

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I asked my parents to go away
as fast...as fast as possible,

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and told them, "I don't
want to remain in the...hell."

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Jewish refugees regained a future.

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Palestinians felt
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They were getting angry because
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was becoming really threatened.

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The Jewish immigration was
threatening to overwhelm them,

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in their country.

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At the Independence Mosque in Haifa,
Palestinians were ready to fight.

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One of the most popular
preachers here was a man called
Izzedine al-Qassam.

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He became a guerrilla chief,
leading attacks on the British
and on the Jews.

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The British killed him,
in a gunfight near Jenin in 1935.

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His death was one of the sparks
for a full-scale Arab revolt.

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It took the British three years
to put it down

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This is Qassam's grave.

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Thousands came to his funeral.

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These days, the armed wing of Hamas,
responsible for many suicide
attacks, is named after him,

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and so are the rockets that
Palestinians fire out of Gaza.

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The British crushed the uprising
so ruthlessly that Arab society
in Palestine fractured.

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It exhausted the stamina
of the Palestinian people,

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three years of deprivation,
of imprisonment,

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of exile of the entire
Palestinian leadership.

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With the result that when
the real issue of our existence came,

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Palestine was...had no
leadership whatsoever.

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Attacks on Jews also increased
their determination to fight.

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I saw suddenly Jews
running out of Jaffa

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to Tel Aviv. And I heard later on

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that the Arabs
attacked the Jews in Jaffa,

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er...killing, murdering,
about nine and more than 50 injured.

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And they became refugees.

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I couldn't understand it.

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Because I couldn't understand
Jews refugees in their...in
their own homeland.

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The biggest Jewish militia
was called the Haganah -
Hebrew for "the Defence".

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From the l930s, it was expanded
into an underground army.

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It was directed from this
building in Jerusalem, the
headquarters of the Jewish Agency.

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Its leader and later Israel's first
Prime Minister was David Ben-Gurion.

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The Haganah was one of a number
of building blocks of a state,

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which the Jewish Agency established

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as it worked tirelessly to make
itself into a government-in-waiting.

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Just look at this place, designed
and built in the '20s and '30s,

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in what for the time
was an ultra-modern style.

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It shows the ambition there was
here, to create a Jewish state.

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They had a very, very clear
objective, and from this building,

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David Ben-Gurion designed and drove
the strategy to get them there.

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The Palestinian Arabs never had
anything like the Jewish Agency,

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and they never had a
leader like Ben-Gurion.

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A man that, from
the morning to the evening,

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thought about the Jewish people
and the state, nothing private.

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A man of tremendous courage,

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honesty, historic obligation,

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thinking that the Jewish tradition
calls for the preference

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of the moral call
above all other consideration.

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With war coming, Britain wanted to
strengthen its position in the
Middle East against Nazi Germany.

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The British reckoned the Jews
would fight against Hitler, but
Arabs would need to be persuaded.

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So in May 1939, a British
Government White Paper restricted

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Jewish immigration to Palestine
to 75,000 over the next five years.

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After that, Palestinian Arabs
would have to acquiesce
in any more Jewish immigration.

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Ben-Gurion's response was that
Palestine's Jews would fight
the White Paper, and fight Hitler.

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32,000 of them joined
the British Army.

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Later,
they used the training to fight
both the Arabs...and the British.

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After 1945, knowledge
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and the question of what
to do for the survivors,

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transformed the case for
a Jewish state in Palestine.

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We were not brought to
Auschwitz to survive, we were
brought to die there.

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Either immediately on arrival
in the gas chambers,

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or they worked us to death
in the heavy industry.

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But should I survive, I decided
I'd become a Zionist,

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because I did understand

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that the only solution
for the Jewish people

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would be an independent state,
a state like all the others,

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with all the rights, and all
the duties, with the government,

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a member in the
Concert of the Nations.

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A state that could protect
its citizens, a state that
could speak for its citizens.

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American pressure was decisive,
as the Holocaust created a new moral
argument for the Jewish state.

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It is my attitude that the American
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while the victims of Hitler's madness
were not allowed to build new lives.

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Truman pressed for
the immediate admission
of 100,000 Holocaust survivors.

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The closest some came were
British internment camps in Cyprus.

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Ernest Bevin, Britain's Foreign
Secretary, stuck to the quota.

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He believed mass Jewish
immigration would start
a civil war in Palestine,

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and ruin Britain's
relations with Arab states.

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Armed Jewish groups stepped up
their attacks on the British.

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'This is the voice of Fighting Zion,
this is the voice of Fighting
Zion, the underground radio.

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'Today, our soldiers, in defence of
their country, attacked the enemy's
police headquarters in Jerusalem.

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'This is voice of Fighting Zion,
broadcasting for
the freedom of Israel.'

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Two future Israeli Prime Ministers
were both wanted men.

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Yitzhak Shamir was a
leader of the Stern Gang.

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Their speciality was assassination.

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Menachem Begin commanded the Irgun.

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Its methods included
kidnapping and bombing.

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In July 1946, the Irgun blew up
the British military headquarters

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at the King David Hotel
in Jerusalem, killing 91 people.

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They called us terrorists.

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Not only they, also Begin
also called us terrorists.

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Now, a terrorist is a question
of definition, of course.

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For one, the act is terrorism, for
the other, they are freedom fighters.

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The British continued
to intercept ships full of
Jewish immigrants from Europe.

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'After being intercepted by
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'Exodus 1947 entered Haifa
harbour under escort.'

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We were stopped on the high sea
and then brought to Haifa.

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It was a catastrophe, of course. We
were in Palestine, we couldn't stay.

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How important was immigration
at that point for the Zionists?

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Very important,

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because we were already aware that
there would be a solution.

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And we wanted as many
as possible Jews in order to get

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a bigger piece of this territory,
so we wanted the Jews in Palestine.

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Why should the Palestinians,
who had not heard of it,

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pay the price of the Holocaust?
Why? Why?

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Why displace the Palestinian
people to pay a price for a crime
which they had not committed?

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As Jewish attacks continued, the
pressure for a solution increased.

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The British Empire
was forced to turn for help.

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Here in London, at the Foreign
Office, they'd had enough.

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They turned the problem
over to the United Nations.

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The UN voted at the end of November
1947 to partition Palestine
into two states -

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one Jewish and one Arab.

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The Jews got the best of it - more
than half the country, even though
they owned around 10% of the land,

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and there were twice as many Arabs.

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The Palestinian Arab leadership
rejected the plans straightaway.

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This was not going to be
settled by diplomacy.

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In Palestine, the Jews celebrated.
Since the 1930s at least,

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David Ben-Gurion had believed
that getting a state
was the first priority,

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but he knew they were going
to have to fight for it.

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At that time, the Jewish
population accepted it,

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and the night of 29th November,
we all danced in the streets.

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And we were still dancing
when the first news came

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that some of the...

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That some people were killed
on the roads.

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We were... We were shocked
by the thing.

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To see that the country
was going to be vivisected.

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There had been violence between Jews
and Arabs before the partition plan,

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but it escalated fast
after the vote.

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Within a week,
there was a civil war.

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The British, counting the days
until they could leave,
were stuck in the middle.

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The Jewish underground army was
rapidly coming into the open.

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They had clandestine arms factories,

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but they were still
short of weapons.

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Their biggest advantage over
the Palestinians

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was a leadership that had spent
years preparing for this moment.

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We were better organised,
because Ben-Gurion,

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with a very far-sighted look,

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he knew that we are going
to come to a conflict.

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And the Haganah - that was
the underground forces of Israel -

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were organising in such a way

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that they would become an army
eventually.

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The main Palestinian leader,
Haj Amin al-Husseini,

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the Mufti of Jerusalem,
lived in exile in Egypt.

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During the Second World War, he was
in Berlin supporting the Nazis.

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The Mufti controlled the biggest
Palestinian militia.

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Other Arab leaders saw him
as a rival, not as an ally.

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He appointed his cousin,
Abdel Khader al-Husseini,

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to lead his militia,
which was called the Holy War Army.

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In the minds of people, he was a
hero, and he deserved to be a hero.

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He was... He was
a top level fighter -

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courageous, brave,
and sincere, loyal...

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Husseini led a few thousand
guerrilla fighters.

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With the help of men
from local Arab villages,

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they cut the main Jewish supply
route from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem -
the city they all wanted.

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This was the biggest prize of
all - Jerusalem, a city holy to
Christians, Jews and Muslims,

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and which had a central part in
the dreams of both sides in the war.

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When the fighting started,
neither could imagine a future

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that didn't include being
in charge of this place.

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In the partition plan,
Jerusalem was supposed to be
under international control.

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Neither Arabs nor Jews wanted that.

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00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,599
So once again in its bloody history,
the Holy City was at war.

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Jerusalem was under siege,
and the Jewish community in
Jerusalem was completely cut off.

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There was not enough water,
not enough food,

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not enough ammunition,
not enough soldiers in Jerusalem.

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00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,780
And we used to have convoys
going from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,

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carrying wheat and water and food
and ammunition and so forth.

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From February l948, the attacks
on the convoys from Tel Aviv
to Jerusalem intensified.

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Arabs controlled the hills
overlooking the route.

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The Haganah constructed
improvised armoured cars -

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known as sandwiches -
to protect themselves.

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We fought our way to Jerusalem,
fighting vehicle after vehicle,

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and the convoys were almost
suicidal operation.

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The situation was such that...

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00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:21,760
we didn't want to fall
alive in the hands of...

303
00:25:21,795 --> 00:25:24,564
So, when you drove...

304
00:25:24,599 --> 00:25:30,084
a normal car,
with people inside, whatever,

305
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,119
we used to have high explosives
inside the truck...

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00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,080
..that if worst come to worst,
and you see that there is no hope,

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we prefer to die
than to fall alive in their hands.

308
00:25:45,355 --> 00:25:48,040
This was a war without
prisoners of war.

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00:25:49,959 --> 00:25:54,099
In March 1948, the Jews
went on the offensive.

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Ben-Gurion and his generals
adopted Plan D.

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00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,320
Its objectives are still
the subject of great controversy.

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00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:11,040
Some historians say that Plan D
was a blueprint for the ethnic
cleansing of Arabs from Palestine.

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00:26:11,075 --> 00:26:16,205
Others say it was simply a military
plan, for seizing strategic ground,

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and that there was no political
scheme to drive the Arabs
out of a future Jewish state.

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00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,285
The priority was opening
the road to Jerusalem.

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00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,485
As the Arab militias didn't
coordinate with each other,

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the Jewish forces were able
to pick villages off one by one.

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00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:40,279
If the residents hadn't already
left, they were often expelled.

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00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,440
Central to the plan
was the capture of Qastel,
the site of an ancient fortress.

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00:26:53,441 --> 00:26:57,240
At the beginning of April 1948
it changed hands several times

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00:26:57,275 --> 00:27:02,239
in fierce fighting, until the
Haganah drove the Palestinians out.

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00:27:02,274 --> 00:27:04,564
They stormed the hill,

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00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:10,760
and the...reinforcement came down
while they were firing.

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00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:14,240
The commander said,
"The commander will cover,

325
00:27:14,275 --> 00:27:19,325
"and the soldiers...should retreat."

326
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,639
So in a way, the commanders
covered the retreat.

327
00:27:23,674 --> 00:27:26,120
And we lost a lot
of people at that time...

328
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,080
..Qastel cost a lot of blood.

329
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,879
In the days before the battle,
al-Husseini had visited Syria
to get arms and ammunition.

330
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,920
When Abdel Khader al-Husseini got
to Damascus, the Syrian President
refused to help him.

331
00:27:46,955 --> 00:27:51,679
Husseini stormed out, yelling
that they were "all traitors",

332
00:27:51,714 --> 00:27:55,679
and that history would record
that THEY lost Palestine.

333
00:27:55,714 --> 00:27:58,164
That was 5th April, 1948.

334
00:27:58,199 --> 00:28:02,519
Abdel Khader al-Husseini,
the strongest war leader
the Palestinians produced,

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00:28:02,554 --> 00:28:05,000
came back to Qastel
to continue the fight.

336
00:28:05,035 --> 00:28:08,840
A few days later, he was killed.

337
00:28:11,399 --> 00:28:16,725
On the 9th of April,
a group of fighters from
the Irgun and the Stern Gang -

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00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,280
the two Jewish
ultra-nationalist groups that
the British regarded as terrorists -

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00:28:21,315 --> 00:28:24,519
were moving towards a village
nearby called Deir Yassin.

340
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,324
The Haganah gave them fire support.

341
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,799
Recent research suggests
the attack killed around
120 Palestinian civilians.

342
00:28:39,159 --> 00:28:41,720
"In every house they entered,

343
00:28:41,755 --> 00:28:43,405
they killed the people inside.

344
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,680
The Jabar family, for example,
was killed.

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00:28:47,715 --> 00:28:49,725
Eight of them.

346
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,880
They were killed in the morning.

347
00:28:51,915 --> 00:28:54,337
There were still sleeping.

348
00:28:54,372 --> 00:28:56,759
They shot them and left.

349
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,645
This is from a report
written by Itzak Levi,

350
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,399
who was commander of the Haganah
intelligence service in Jerusalem,

351
00:29:24,434 --> 00:29:29,445
dated 12th April 1948, which is
three days after it happened.

352
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,684
"The conquest of the village was
carried out with great brutality.

353
00:29:33,719 --> 00:29:39,759
"Whole families - women,
old people, children - were killed
and piles of corpses accumulated.

354
00:29:39,794 --> 00:29:44,279
"Some of the prisoners taken to
places of detention, including
women and children,

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00:29:44,314 --> 00:29:46,885
"were brutally murdered
by their guards.

356
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,805
"Among the prisoners
was a young mother and baby.

357
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:55,679
"The guards killed the baby in front
of his mother and after she fainted,
also murdered her."

358
00:30:00,879 --> 00:30:07,240
Palestinians had been
fleeing their homes for safer
places since December, l947.

359
00:30:07,275 --> 00:30:11,200
But after Deir Yassin,
a mass exodus began.

360
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:19,325
Menachem Begin, the Irgun's
leader, said the massacre was a lie,

361
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,100
propagated by his political rivals
and by Jew-haters around the world.

362
00:30:24,135 --> 00:30:29,007
But Begin said the "legend
of terror" was worth
half a dozen battalions,

363
00:30:29,042 --> 00:30:33,880
because Arabs were seized
with panic when they heard
the Irgun was coming.

364
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:45,679
Palestinian radio made the atrocity
sound even worse than it was,
to stiffen Arab resistance.

365
00:30:45,714 --> 00:30:48,919
The reports made the civilians
even more terrified.

366
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,480
"May God curse
the reporters who came to us.

367
00:30:59,515 --> 00:31:02,284
They were servants
of Jewish imperialism.

368
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,920
They published stories about
their crimes, the massacre,

369
00:31:05,955 --> 00:31:08,617
how they violated our women.

370
00:31:08,652 --> 00:31:11,245
This helped the Jews, not us!

371
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,520
It scared us,
and made us worry about our honour.

372
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:27,799
King Abdullah of Transjordan and
other Arab leaders came under strong
domestic pressure to intervene.

373
00:31:27,834 --> 00:31:31,120
Ben-Gurion sent Abdullah an apology.

374
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,445
Four days after Deir Yassin,
there was another massacre.

375
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,639
A column of Jewish doctors and
nurses was attacked by Palestinians
at Mount Scopus in Jerusalem.

376
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Their vehicles were set on fire
and many were burnt to death.

377
00:31:58,275 --> 00:31:59,840
78 people were killed.

378
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:10,485
Jaffa, just south of Tel Aviv,

379
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,445
was in the Arab state
in the partition plan.

380
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,680
What happened here helps explain
why so many Palestinians fled.

381
00:32:21,199 --> 00:32:27,040
In April 1948, Arab sniping
out of Jaffa was answered by
heavy shelling from the Irgun.

382
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,325
The Jews attacked Jaffa.

383
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,240
And by bombarding Jaffa, they, er...

384
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,925
..they made the conditions
for the Arabs to leave,

385
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,245
because the Arabs were afraid
that they would be killed.

386
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,199
So, it wasn't voluntarily,
but it was a result of the battle.

387
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,639
But the flight was triggered
by more than force.

388
00:32:55,674 --> 00:32:59,564
We let them know, in different ways,

389
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:02,819
not in pamphlets, not over the radio,
not officially,

390
00:33:02,854 --> 00:33:06,039
we let them understand
that it's better if they leave,

391
00:33:06,074 --> 00:33:09,044
because the Jews are terrible.

392
00:33:09,079 --> 00:33:11,920
And, "Don't stay here
when the Jews come here."

393
00:33:11,955 --> 00:33:14,600
So this was psychological warfare?

394
00:33:14,635 --> 00:33:16,040
In a small scale.

395
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,245
The people flee,

396
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,284
because of this massacre
that happened in Deir Yassin.

397
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:30,640
They were afraid that the same
thing will happen here in Jaffa.

398
00:33:32,639 --> 00:33:36,005
Palestinian society was collapsing.

399
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Some Israelis claim
that Palestinians were leaving

400
00:33:39,315 --> 00:33:42,520
on the orders of Arab leaders
to wait for victory.

401
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Jewish leaders had discussed moving
Arabs out of Palestine for years,

402
00:33:47,875 --> 00:33:50,680
but deny that was anything
to do with their departure.

403
00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:01,720
Does Israel bear
any responsibility for the exodus
of the Palestinians in 1948?

404
00:34:01,755 --> 00:34:03,444
No.

405
00:34:03,479 --> 00:34:10,480
Some historians say that Plan D
was a blueprint for the ethnic
cleansing of Palestine, of Arabs.

406
00:34:10,515 --> 00:34:12,285
Is that true? No.

407
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,079
You know, as they say,
I was present at the creation.

408
00:34:17,114 --> 00:34:20,600
I don't mind what historians
write or think.

409
00:34:20,635 --> 00:34:24,044
I watched with my own eyes.

410
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,725
Ben-Gurion did not want
the Arabs to leave the country.

411
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,479
When we spoke to President Peres of
Jerusalem, he said that Israel bears

412
00:34:31,514 --> 00:34:35,639
no responsibility whatsoever
for the exodus of Palestinians.

413
00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:38,285
No responsibility whatsoever?!

414
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,719
Then what caused
the exodus to happen?

415
00:34:41,754 --> 00:34:44,565
It was the Israeli massacre

416
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,940
of villagers, of people
whom they encountered.

417
00:34:47,975 --> 00:34:51,280
I can count to you
the scores of massacres,

418
00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:53,359
which happened
all over the country.

419
00:34:53,394 --> 00:34:55,764
Do you think that anybody
would leave his home

420
00:34:55,799 --> 00:34:59,119
unless he was...really threatened?

421
00:35:02,399 --> 00:35:06,640
That's what Peres said to us.
I am surprised that
President Peres has said so.

422
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,365
The 14th of May, 1948.

423
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,565
The last day of the British mandate.

424
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,599
Britain's legacy to Palestine
was a legal system,

425
00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:21,119
red pillar boxes, chaos and war.

426
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,400
The same day, David Ben-Gurion
announced that the State of Israel

427
00:35:31,435 --> 00:35:34,919
would come into existence
at midnight.

428
00:35:38,879 --> 00:35:42,444
Within hours,
the country was under attack.

429
00:35:42,479 --> 00:35:45,239
We heard the explosions,
and I said to my wife, I said,

430
00:35:45,274 --> 00:35:48,164
"The game's on.
They're bombing Tel-Aviv."

431
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:52,739
Their main targets were
the Reading power station,

432
00:35:52,774 --> 00:35:57,245
the Tel Aviv airfield,
the central bus station,

433
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,000
and they were really bombing
Tel Aviv with impunity, because
there was nothing to stop them.

434
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,199
That day, five Arab states invaded.

435
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,524
The Egyptians advanced
from the south,

436
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:16,244
towards the main
Jewish centre of Tel Aviv.

437
00:36:16,279 --> 00:36:19,365
The Lebanese barely
crossed the northern border,

438
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,040
with the Syrians attacking at
either end of the Sea of Galilee.

439
00:36:24,075 --> 00:36:26,760
Further south came the Iraqis,
while in the centre,

440
00:36:26,795 --> 00:36:28,937
Transjordan's Arab Legion advanced

441
00:36:28,972 --> 00:36:31,044
towards the West Bank and Jerusalem.

442
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:34,720
The invading force
was between 25-30,000,

443
00:36:34,755 --> 00:36:38,280
against around 35,000 Israelis.

444
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,845
Although the invasion
was under the nominal command

445
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,780
of King Abdullah of Transjordan,
each country made its own plans.

446
00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:53,187
Abdullah had been having secret
but inconclusive negotiations

447
00:36:53,222 --> 00:36:57,559
with Jewish leaders about
carving up Palestine between them.

448
00:36:57,594 --> 00:37:01,400
He also wanted to add Lebanon
and Syria to his kingdom,

449
00:37:01,435 --> 00:37:03,845
to make an Arab superstate.

450
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,159
No wonder other Arab leaders
didn't trust him.

451
00:37:07,194 --> 00:37:09,204
They didn't trust
each other, either.

452
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,804
They'd all have liked
a piece of Palestine for themselves.

453
00:37:12,839 --> 00:37:18,160
And destroying the Jewish state
at birth would have made them
into national heroes.

454
00:37:18,195 --> 00:37:22,560
But they knew their capacity
to do it was limited.

455
00:37:22,595 --> 00:37:26,565
Some of the Arab states went to war

456
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:32,360
just to satisfy the ambitions
of their common classes.

457
00:37:32,395 --> 00:37:35,964
Some of the Arab states wanted

458
00:37:35,999 --> 00:37:40,560
to prevent King Abdullah
from controlling

459
00:37:40,595 --> 00:37:44,480
more areas from the Arab states.

460
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,244
Some of the states, er...

461
00:37:50,279 --> 00:37:53,765
were forcing themselves
to go to war,

462
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,359
otherwise the Arab people
will call them traitors.

463
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,719
Most of the invading troops
were like Egypt's - well-armed,
but badly trained and led.

464
00:38:05,754 --> 00:38:11,440
Egypt's King Farouk
sent his men to war against
the advice of his government.

465
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:17,044
Transjordan's Arab Legion
was commanded by British officers.

466
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:21,804
It was the most effective
Arab fighting force,
but small - 8,000 men.

467
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:27,320
It only fought for land allocated
to the Arabs by the partition plan,
and in Jerusalem.

468
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,879
"The Jordanians
considered Jerusalem and Palestine

469
00:38:34,914 --> 00:38:36,885
as the diamond of the Middle East,

470
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:43,200
because of the spiritual
and religious significance
we have as Muslims and Arabs.

471
00:38:43,235 --> 00:38:49,480
So we considered the capture
of Jerusalem as our incentive
as Jordanian fighters,

472
00:38:49,515 --> 00:38:52,400
and we fought hard to defend it.

473
00:38:59,399 --> 00:39:03,959
For the first month after
the invasion, it was touch and go
for the Israelis.

474
00:39:03,994 --> 00:39:08,084
The old city of Jerusalem was under
attack by the Jordanian army,

475
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:11,959
so we were stretched all over the
place, and there were very few units,

476
00:39:11,994 --> 00:39:14,536
who were free to fight
everywhere else.

477
00:39:14,571 --> 00:39:17,044
And the situation
at that time I think

478
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:22,120
was the most critical
during the war of independence.

479
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,805
Kibbutz Ramat Rachel near Bethlehem.

480
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,405
Here, the Israelis fought
to stop the Egyptians

481
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,919
linking up with the Arab Legion
to encircle Jerusalem.

482
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:47,360
The building behind me
was the dining hall
here at Kibbutz Ramat Rachel.

483
00:39:47,395 --> 00:39:50,725
It was the strongest building
in the place, on the highest point,

484
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,320
and it was there that the Israelis
set up their headquarters
and decided to make their stand.

485
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,760
You know, it's been
60 years since I was here last.

486
00:40:04,795 --> 00:40:07,240
60 years, that's a long time.
It sure is.

487
00:40:08,919 --> 00:40:10,600
There's the wall.

488
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,120
And all those pocket marks
from the bombardment.

489
00:40:17,155 --> 00:40:18,804
From the shelling.

490
00:40:18,839 --> 00:40:22,959
You were up here when you
were wounded. What happened?

491
00:40:22,994 --> 00:40:26,199
The truth is,
I don't know what happened.

492
00:40:26,234 --> 00:40:27,804
A shell exploded in my face

493
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:31,479
and I got covered with shrapnel
all over my body.

494
00:40:31,514 --> 00:40:34,077
I couldn't see.
I thought I was blind.

495
00:40:34,112 --> 00:40:36,605
The Israelis held on
to Ramat Rachel,

496
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,400
but the Arab Legion kept up
the pressure on
Jewish-controlled Jerusalem

497
00:40:42,435 --> 00:40:44,680
by cutting
the supply route from Tel Aviv.

498
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,004
To reopen it,
the Israelis tried - and failed -

499
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:58,124
repeatedly to take Latroun,
a strongpoint on the Jerusalem road.

500
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:03,239
The first time they thought it was
defended by Palestinian irregulars.

501
00:41:03,274 --> 00:41:08,285
Instead, they faced well-dug-in
professionals from the Arab Legion.

502
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,600
We were encountered by tremendous
fire of machine-guns and mortars,
and so forth.

503
00:41:13,635 --> 00:41:17,720
The heat was absolutely
about 40, 42 degrees,

504
00:41:17,755 --> 00:41:20,039
and in the shadow.

505
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,720
We didn't have enough water,
of course,

506
00:41:23,755 --> 00:41:25,925
and people were hit all the time.

507
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,120
I myself was wounded, first time,
in the morning.

508
00:41:29,155 --> 00:41:31,405
I got a bullet in my shoulder,

509
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,280
and then, about 10 o'clock,
I got another shrapnel, in my chest.

510
00:41:35,315 --> 00:41:40,360
And the situation was hopeless,
as far as we are concerned.

511
00:41:40,395 --> 00:41:43,845
In Jerusalem's walled Old City,

512
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,580
the Jewish Quarter fell
to the Arab Legion.

513
00:41:47,615 --> 00:41:51,245
Over 1,000 Jewish civilians
lost their homes.

514
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:58,000
Almost 23,000 Palestinians left
districts of the city captured
by Jewish forces during the war.

515
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:03,160
The Legion kept the
Jewish-controlled west of the city
under siege,

516
00:42:03,195 --> 00:42:06,320
but never risked
trying to capture it.

517
00:42:06,355 --> 00:42:08,765
I think that people fired...

518
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,044
'For the Israelis, the breakthrough
was finding a cross-country route,

519
00:42:13,079 --> 00:42:18,000
'to ferry supplies and pump water,
that bypassed the Arab
Legion's positions.'

520
00:42:18,035 --> 00:42:20,205
We assembled 13 Jeeps.

521
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,965
One of them belonged to Ben-Gurion.

522
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,400
We loaded them with about more than
half a ton per Jeep

523
00:42:27,435 --> 00:42:30,484
medical supplies,
ammunition, weapons.

524
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,725
We knew exactly
what the situation in Jerusalem is.

525
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,720
How important was it for the Jewish
forces to hang on in Jerusalem?

526
00:42:38,755 --> 00:42:42,645
It's unbelievable
how people felt about Jerusalem.

527
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,079
They knew that...that without
Jerusalem, there is no Jewish state.

528
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:54,280
On the southern front,
the Egyptian army advanced north
towards Tel Aviv,

529
00:42:54,315 --> 00:42:56,279
avoiding smaller Israeli
settlements.

530
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,059
But Kibbutz Yad Mordechai
was too big to ignore.

531
00:43:05,094 --> 00:43:09,399
On 24th May, Egyptian armour
and infantry attacked.

532
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:17,079
Here, in front of me,
I have no bullets and I have
no rifles to reach them.

533
00:43:17,114 --> 00:43:20,524
I need a mortar,
or I need something...

534
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:25,359
And I was very, very angry
that I can't shoot...

535
00:43:25,394 --> 00:43:28,037
there in front of me.

536
00:43:28,072 --> 00:43:30,255
And I can't do nothing,

537
00:43:30,290 --> 00:43:32,404
because, er, the distance,

538
00:43:32,439 --> 00:43:37,439
it's too wide. I have no rifle,
I have no munition.

539
00:43:37,474 --> 00:43:42,440
And no aims to defence myself,
or to attack them.

540
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,799
Outnumbered and out of ammunition,

541
00:43:46,834 --> 00:43:49,324
the Israeli forces had to retreat.

542
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:53,499
But they had bought time
to establish a defence line
further north,

543
00:43:53,534 --> 00:43:57,640
where the Egyptians were stopped
before they could reach Tel Aviv.

544
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,725
After nearly a month's fighting,

545
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,559
the United Nations secured
a four-week ceasefire.

546
00:44:07,319 --> 00:44:13,445
During the truce, both sides
re-armed, but Israel had the edge,

547
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:20,320
with big deliveries from
Czechoslovakia of modern weapons,
including heavy guns and aircraft.

548
00:44:20,355 --> 00:44:24,520
Although hugely outnumbered
by Arabs in the Middle East,

549
00:44:24,555 --> 00:44:29,597
Israel was always able
to mobilise more soldiers.

550
00:44:29,632 --> 00:44:34,604
It was now better equipped,
organised and motivated.

551
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,560
As far as you were concerned,
it was a life-or-death struggle.
Absolutely.

552
00:44:38,595 --> 00:44:40,857
This was Israel's most frightful war.

553
00:44:40,892 --> 00:44:43,686
It was a case of to be or not to be.

554
00:44:43,721 --> 00:44:46,445
When the ceasefire ended
after a month,

555
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,359
the Israelis were ready for what
one of their top generals called

556
00:44:50,394 --> 00:44:54,239
a series of sharp, short,
decisive and victorious engagements.

557
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,359
The priority was relieving the
pressure on Tel Aviv-Jerusalem axis.

558
00:45:00,394 --> 00:45:05,080
Lydd and Ramleh, two adjoining
Arab towns close to Tel Aviv,

559
00:45:05,115 --> 00:45:07,125
were the targets.

560
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,800
What happened here was one of
the most controversial episodes
of the entire war.

561
00:45:11,835 --> 00:45:15,844
The Israelis scored
a major strategic victory.

562
00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:19,645
They secured Tel Aviv,
and the centre of their new country.

563
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:25,160
In the process, tens of thousands of
Palestinian Arabs lost their homes,

564
00:45:25,195 --> 00:45:28,480
and hundreds of them
lost their lives.

565
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,280
The Haganah killed
dozens of Palestinians
who were sheltering in a mosque.

566
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,239
Some of them just left their houses
and found this place as a refuge,

567
00:45:56,274 --> 00:45:59,880
most of the families, and
they thought that this is the way,

568
00:45:59,915 --> 00:46:01,684
they are very safe in this place.

569
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,564
The Haganah army,
when they got inside the city,

570
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:10,520
after fears of fighting between
the Palestinians and the Haganah,

571
00:46:10,555 --> 00:46:13,485
they just came inside this mosque,

572
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,120
and they just killed all of
the people inside here.

573
00:46:17,155 --> 00:46:21,004
Women, children, old people,

574
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,800
all of them were shot.
It was a big massacre.

575
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,479
Some of the residents
were forced to bury the bodies.

576
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,600
'The army took us to the mosque,
to take the dead to the cemetery.

577
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,645
'We entered one room.
there were 60 or 70 bodies inside.

578
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:58,520
'Later, they covered them
with clothes and poured petrol,
and set them on fire.

579
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,520
'There was a woman
dressed in peasant clothes.

580
00:47:06,319 --> 00:47:10,044
'Next to her were two little girls.

581
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:14,525
'We carried them,
and put them over there.

582
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,359
'They were the only ones
who had a proper burial.'

583
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:27,280
There's a controversy over
whether Ben-Gurion authorised the
expulsions from Lydd and Ramleh.

584
00:47:28,399 --> 00:47:32,119
The Israeli commander who signed
the order believed that he had.

585
00:47:32,154 --> 00:47:35,920
More than 50,000 Palestinians
were forced out.

586
00:47:37,999 --> 00:47:40,759
It's not a secret any more.

587
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:46,205
It was called Shualei Shimshon,
"the wolf of Samson".

588
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:52,080
With Jeeps, with machine-guns,
it's not a secret any more.

589
00:47:53,759 --> 00:47:59,599
Many things we did we regret until
today. We...we regret until today.

590
00:47:59,634 --> 00:48:01,445
And I think that, er...

591
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Well, but in war,
you make mistakes. You...

592
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:10,565
Anyhow, there was no clear order
from Ben-Gurion

593
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,564
how to deal with the inhabitants
in an occupied village.

594
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:21,199
But could Israel have functioned
with a big town like Ramleh...

595
00:48:21,234 --> 00:48:23,576
full of Arabs...?

596
00:48:23,611 --> 00:48:25,884
Ramleh? All Arabs...

597
00:48:25,919 --> 00:48:31,639
Could you have built a state if you
had that many Arabs living
right in the centre of the country?

598
00:48:31,674 --> 00:48:33,485
No.

599
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:39,040
Many refugees died on the
long walk to the Arab lines.

600
00:48:39,075 --> 00:48:42,160
The offensive ended
with another UN truce.

601
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,844
In ten days of fighting,
the Israeli general Yigal Allon

602
00:48:50,879 --> 00:48:55,240
estimated that 20% of the effective
Arab fighting force had been lost,

603
00:48:55,275 --> 00:48:58,720
and the war of independence won,
though not ended.

604
00:49:00,959 --> 00:49:05,200
In the remaining months of the war,
there were more Israeli offensives,

605
00:49:05,235 --> 00:49:09,084
more Palestinians were forced out,
and there were more ceasefires.

606
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:16,279
Of the invaders, only the Arab
Legion, in Jerusalem and the
West Bank, could claim any success.

607
00:49:16,314 --> 00:49:18,520
The others were humiliated.

608
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:25,640
When the second war came, it was not
in favour of the Arabs.

609
00:49:25,675 --> 00:49:28,879
It was totally in favour of the Jews.

610
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,360
Because their...

611
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,360
The Jews were able to make victory
in the south,

612
00:49:38,395 --> 00:49:40,965
and against
the Syrians and Lebanese.

613
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,359
We were left alone in the West Bank,
defending ourselves.

614
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,599
By the time Israel seized
the last corner of the
Negev Desert in March l949,

615
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,900
armistice talks had
already started.

616
00:49:58,034 --> 00:50:02,939
Yad Mordechai was recaptured,
and became a symbol
of Israeli resistance.

617
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,845
From November 1947 to January 1949,

618
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:14,640
around 6,000 Israelis - 1% of
the population - had been killed.

619
00:50:14,675 --> 00:50:18,365
What do you think would
have happened if you hadn't won?

620
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,340
Well, the Arabs really gave the
answer to that question, Jeremy.

621
00:50:22,375 --> 00:50:26,280
When someone said to them,
"But what will happen to the Jews

622
00:50:26,315 --> 00:50:28,365
"once you over-run them?"

623
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,204
He says, "There won't be any Jews.

624
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,680
"They will have been
drowned in the sea."

625
00:50:34,199 --> 00:50:37,845
And I have no doubt that it
really would have been a holocaust.

626
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:43,639
One estimate is that
around 15,000 Arab soldiers
and civilians were killed.

627
00:50:43,674 --> 00:50:48,760
Defeat made the Arab world
even more unstable.

628
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:50,565
There was no balance

629
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,920
between the forces of Israel
and the forces of the Arabs,

630
00:50:54,955 --> 00:50:56,445
because in wars,

631
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,840
you don't only depend on the number
of soldiers, or the number of tanks,

632
00:51:01,875 --> 00:51:06,845
you have also to have
political force,

633
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:12,320
and you have to have unity
among those who are going to war.

634
00:51:12,355 --> 00:51:17,399
Unity did not exist among
the Arab states.

635
00:51:19,879 --> 00:51:23,319
Since l948, the Israelis
have built a modern state,

636
00:51:23,354 --> 00:51:26,760
the region's superpower,
a homeland for the Jews.

637
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:34,040
Palestinians believe that it has
all come on the back of their loss,

638
00:51:34,075 --> 00:51:36,759
and that troubles some Israelis,
too.

639
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,679
"I have no doubt that
the Arabs' deportation

640
00:51:41,714 --> 00:51:44,080
also helped the state of Israel.

641
00:51:44,115 --> 00:51:46,285
The truth should be said.

642
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,924
It helped us because hundreds
of thousands fled,

643
00:51:48,959 --> 00:51:52,560
and new immigrants settled into
their villages and towns.

644
00:51:52,595 --> 00:51:55,325
It's difficult to say,
but this DID happen.

645
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,760
We didn't ask for it,
but it happened nonetheless.

646
00:51:59,795 --> 00:52:04,160
On the other hand,
the situation of an ongoing war,

647
00:52:04,195 --> 00:52:07,644
day after day, for 60 years,

648
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:12,119
big wars with names,
small wars with no names.

649
00:52:12,154 --> 00:52:16,360
The 1948 war is yet to end.

650
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,679
For all Israel's strength,
its civilians still
get killed by Palestinians.

651
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:39,764
And with their civilians dying, too,

652
00:52:39,799 --> 00:52:43,360
Palestinians believe that
what they called the Nakba -

653
00:52:43,395 --> 00:52:47,159
the catastrophe of 1948-
has never ended.

654
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:53,159
The current peace process,
sponsored by President Bush,

655
00:52:53,194 --> 00:52:55,805
will fail, like all the others,

656
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,920
if it cannot solve problems that
are hard-wired to l948.

657
00:53:00,955 --> 00:53:03,324
Partition is still on the agenda.

658
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:08,759
They need to fix a border between
Israel and a Palestinian state.

659
00:53:08,794 --> 00:53:12,856
Jerusalem is still
claimed by both sides.

660
00:53:12,891 --> 00:53:16,919
And Palestinian refugees
await a future.

661
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,480
Until 1948, that was a bare hill
on the edge of Bethlehem.

662
00:53:23,515 --> 00:53:25,565
Now it's Deheishe refugee camp.

663
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,925
The original tents were
replaced by permanent structures
a long time ago,

664
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,560
but there is no sense of permanence
in the minds of
the people who live there,

665
00:53:35,595 --> 00:53:40,160
because, for 60 years,
they have effectively been in limbo.

666
00:53:40,195 --> 00:53:43,565
The future of
the Palestinian refugees

667
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:49,640
is still one of the Middle East's
great unsolved,
politically toxic issues.

668
00:53:52,439 --> 00:53:57,805
When the Palestinian camps were
new, 60 years ago,

669
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,919
Israel was absorbing
hundreds of thousands of Jewish
refugees and migrants.

670
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:11,840
Now almost all Israelis believe
a mass influx of Palestinian
refugees would destroy their state.

671
00:54:11,875 --> 00:54:16,000
'A UN resolution on their return
has never been implemented.

672
00:54:17,879 --> 00:54:23,680
'Some Palestinian refugees, still
dreaming of everything they lost,
will not hear of compromise.'

673
00:54:32,759 --> 00:54:35,085
'We said it more than once.

674
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,245
'Even if they give us Heaven,
we will not give up on our country.

675
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,960
'If they give us enough gold
to fill this room, we will
decline everything. Impossible!

676
00:54:44,995 --> 00:54:47,165
'I will die, and die a heretic,

677
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,800
'if you take £1 million in gold
for an inch of Palestine,

678
00:54:50,835 --> 00:54:52,725
'you die as a heretic.

679
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,600
'Not a Muslim, not a Christian,
not a Jew.

680
00:54:56,635 --> 00:54:58,880
'A heretic. And you go to Hell.'

681
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:10,360
And even though most Palestinians
DO accept that they
will live alongside Israel,

682
00:55:10,395 --> 00:55:14,805
memory and history
stand on every street corner.

683
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,079
My father has built here. My father,
he was denied to live,

684
00:55:19,114 --> 00:55:23,319
and he was dispossessed
to live in this beautiful house.

685
00:55:23,354 --> 00:55:26,657
It's been now
60 years for most of the people.

686
00:55:26,692 --> 00:55:29,925
There are weaknesses.
You want to advance,

687
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:36,800
and I would want very much
to compete and advance as much as
the Israelis have advanced,

688
00:55:36,835 --> 00:55:40,879
but I am a Palestinian.
My...my...my land has been robbed
by the Israelis.

689
00:55:40,914 --> 00:55:45,440
We want them to have
a state of their own.

690
00:55:45,475 --> 00:55:49,017
Fair, independent, frank.

691
00:55:49,052 --> 00:55:52,525
And they want it, too.

692
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,684
There is no division
in our destinies.

693
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:04,080
Our problem, from our side, is they
are divisioned within themselves,
and their weakness.

694
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,885
Others believe the main problem is
that Israel is still expansionist,

695
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:17,759
breaking international law by
settling Jews on occupied land that
Palestinians say is theirs.

696
00:56:20,279 --> 00:56:23,619
They don't want to give up territory.

697
00:56:23,654 --> 00:56:26,924
They want to
squeeze the Palestinians.

698
00:56:26,959 --> 00:56:30,699
They want to take
as much territory as they can

699
00:56:30,734 --> 00:56:34,439
and give the Palestinians as little
as they can,

700
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:38,160
which would not be conducive
to a solution,

701
00:56:38,195 --> 00:56:41,359
a self-sustaining
Palestinian state.

702
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:49,480
60 years ago, Arab propagandists
boasted they would push
the Jews into the Mediterranean.

703
00:56:49,515 --> 00:56:54,760
Plenty of Israelis suspect
that's still something
Palestinians would like to do.

704
00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:00,524
Had they accepted the 1947...

705
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:05,645
their part,
half of Palestine, the mandate,

706
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,920
we would have two countries
since then, and no conflict.

707
00:57:09,955 --> 00:57:12,845
But what they wanted
is the whole country.

708
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,759
They wanted to drive us into the sea,
to kill the Jews.

709
00:57:16,794 --> 00:57:19,444
This is why they
don't have anything today.

710
00:57:19,479 --> 00:57:23,779
I will continue to resist,
in an un-violent resistance,

711
00:57:23,814 --> 00:57:28,080
until we can co-exist,
until we can convince the Israelis

712
00:57:28,115 --> 00:57:30,757
that we want our freedom,
but this does not mean

713
00:57:30,792 --> 00:57:33,399
that we want to destroy
the state of Israel.

714
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:43,679
The long war of 1948
has consumed two peoples with
two separate stories to tell.

715
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,639
They'll have to find
a way to live with its legacy

716
00:57:47,674 --> 00:57:50,360
if they ever want peace.

717
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,719
One day we shall have to
shake hands and sit together.

718
00:57:56,754 --> 00:57:58,640
We can't continue fighting for ever.

719
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,880
You can't continue
killing and killing and killing.

720
00:58:07,915 --> 00:58:09,959
There must be an end to it.

721
00:58:34,919 --> 00:58:37,439
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722
00:58:37,474 --> 00:58:39,959
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